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post #12376 of 12519 Old 07-25-2012, 01:57 PM
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Am I outting too much thought into this, but if they're directional, are they ALL the same? In other words, if you laid them out so the 'direction' went clockwise, would you see RWL on all of them, or just half? Or are they RWL on both sides of the tire?

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post #12377 of 12519 Old 07-25-2012, 02:15 PM
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I hear what your saying and I have seen that with other tires where the white letters or white walls were mounted in. On my MTR's, they only have rwl on one sidewall. On the black sidewall, it says " This side Inboard". While I don't know specifically why, I figured Goodyear had a reason for it and I'll continue to run mine like the manufacture recommends. That being said, I think I read that some of the larger sized MTR's have all black sidewalls so there is no issue with rwl.
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post #12378 of 12519 Old 07-25-2012, 05:29 PM
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The tires are weird.
The rwl is, how do I say it...nearest the snow sipes on 2 tires and on the other side for the other 2.
So...the rwl and snow tread would only match in 1 configuration.
There is no writing on the tire that says "this side out" or anything like that. So I will do what I want and mount black out.

I bought them. 6 bills and they still have some blue covering on the white lettering.
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post #12379 of 12519 Old 07-25-2012, 06:47 PM
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I'd be interested to know if the handling is any different with the close blocks on the outside.

I'm impressed with the new Kevlars. They performed really well for the drivers that had them in Moab this year.

I'm with most on the RWL - the last time I had that was my Phantom ATs on my XJ. It's been black on every set I've had since. Just not a fan of RWL.

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post #12380 of 12519 Old 07-26-2012, 12:59 PM
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I see it- "This side inboard". Tiny little writing right at the bead. It is on the black side.
Looks like they're going to be RWL out. Oh well, still a good deal.

They're supposed to be a lot quieter on the road. That will be a good thing. These old MT/R's are getting louder the more worn they get(I think).

Will any ole' tire shop mount them? A Discount or Big O or such?
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post #12381 of 12519 Old 07-26-2012, 07:53 PM
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Mounting can be kind of spendy (20 bucks a tire if I remember correctly), but both Discount and Big O are good shops.

You might even be able to get certificates on them from Discount. I've heard that they can add the warranty on tires purchased elsewhere. Don't quote me though

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post #12382 of 12519 Old 07-26-2012, 09:58 PM
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Watch for what I would term "Halo Scrub" Tom - another GC owner (also a Tom) has had "halos" show up on his MTR-Ks.

Pureley cosmetic of course, but kind of annoying IMO.

mtrscrub.jpg

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post #12383 of 12519 Old 07-27-2012, 07:54 AM
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Jim, is that from airing down? or just crappy tires? That would yak me off, seeings how much they cost.


So...these old tires(still on the heap)...Do they have a want or value to anyone? I am not talking about selling, but not giving them to the tire store to sell to a reseller to sell. They have about 1/2 inch of lugs left, 5 tires.


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I did a 112 mile bike race last week. From Boulder to Ft Collins to Estes Park and back. 7,000 feet in climbing. 9 water bottles. 5 hours, 49 minutes.
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post #12384 of 12519 Old 07-27-2012, 10:50 AM
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FPKites, That is exactly I was talking about with the white showing through the black on the sidewall! Mine are not anywhere close to that bad yet but it is really annoying and a poor design by Goodyear as they clearly knew that these tires would be used for. Here is what mine look like after 4 off-road trips.



I guess we shall see what they look like after a week of wheeling next week.
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post #12385 of 12519 Old 07-27-2012, 09:10 PM
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My Big-O Tires with RWL did the exact same thing. It was caused from rocks rubbing against the outside. AFAIK any RWT tire will have the issue

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post #12386 of 12519 Old 07-27-2012, 09:24 PM
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Ryan, I remember that now - back in your BB days (and my BB days )

If you're wondering, the tires I pictured are Tom Z's. They went from black to super-white between GSW and 2, maybe 3 trips. He doesn't air down very far either.

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'04 WJ, 6" Clayton LA's, 242 SYE, 35" BFG MT KM2's, 4.56 gears, & D44a locked
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post #12388 of 12519 Old 07-28-2012, 07:50 AM
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Interesting to know that Goodyear is not the only tire with that issue. Regardless, that will be a big factor to me when I put 33's on my Jeep in the next few months. I will only buy tires with black sidewalls to avoid that issue. I think I read that some of the larger MTR's were available with a black sidewall as apposed to the rwl.

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post #12389 of 12519 Old 08-01-2012, 08:15 AM
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Got the new tires mounted.
Went to Discount. Cost was $16 per tire plus $20 for road hazard. $150 mounted, insured and out the door.
Jeep looks...blingy now with the RWL out.
I'll take a pic and post it later.

The guy at Discount also said I can't use the spare and 4 wheel drive at the same time, and forget the locker with the spare, as the spare, which is an old tire, is too warn out and too small and will cause issues.
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