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Unread 06-29-2013, 07:59 AM   #751
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I used NTK sensors from Rockauto.com. NTK makes the OEM sensors for our jeeps, and after searching it sounded like the best option for me. What code are you getting?
I'll scan it again when I get back home. If I remember correctly I think was something about them overheating

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Unread 06-29-2013, 02:23 PM   #752
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I have the black magics and centric rotors. They are a bit better than stock. Just curious, what is the price difference between black magics and a parts store special? Luckily my black magics were free!
A lot, autozone special pads are probably $50 bucks and rotors are $35 a piece, black magic pads alone are $125. Black Magic pads and rotors are 250ish total.
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Unread 06-29-2013, 02:37 PM   #753
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Unread 06-29-2013, 03:26 PM   #754
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Unread 06-29-2013, 04:17 PM   #755
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What O2 sensors did you use? My CEL came on in January saying the lower two were were being naughty, I replaced them with Bosch sensors and I'm still getting the code, even after I erased it, it just what's to keep coming back.

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Jeeps pretty much hate Bosch products, especially spark plugs and O2 sensors. Do you know the actual code it's throwing?
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O2 sensor heater circuit bank 1 sensor 1

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O2 sensor heater circuit bank 2 sensor 1




Aaaaand I just found this

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Evaporative emission system leak detected (large leak)

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Unread 06-29-2013, 04:52 PM   #757
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O2 sensor heater circuit bank 1 sensor 1

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O2 sensor heater circuit bank 2 sensor 1

Aaaaand I just found this

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Evaporative emission system leak detected (large leak)

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Hmmm, is there a fuse in the O2 heater circuit? Check all your fuses. Look for any harness damage as well. Evap large could have been the gas cap left loose, a broken hose, or defective purge/vent solenoid.
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Hmmm, is there a fuse in the O2 heater circuit? Check all your fuses. Look for any harness damage as well. Evap large could have been the gas cap left loose, a broken hose, or defective purge/vent solenoid.
Thanks, i'll check out the fuses for the O2, I didn't know it had any.

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Definitely not the gas cap, I can check the hoses after this drizzle goes away but I have no clue what a purge/vent solenoid is lol

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Unread 06-29-2013, 05:08 PM   #759
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Thanks, i'll check out the fuses for the O2, I didn't know it had any.

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Definitely not the gas cap, I can check the hoses after this drizzle goes away but I have no clue what a purge/vent solenoid is lol

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There may not be any fuses for them, but for both of them to be out its like they aren't getting power.

I think there is a purge solenoid in the engine bay and a vent solenoid maybe on top of the tank. Evap leaks can really suck to find. That is coming from a formerly ASE certified Master Mechanic. I got out of the dealership world and let it expire though.
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There may not be any fuses for them, but for both of them to be out its like they aren't getting power.

I think there is a purge solenoid in the engine bay and a vent solenoid maybe on top of the tank. Evap leaks can really suck to find. That is coming from a formerly ASE certified Master Mechanic. I got out of the dealership world and let it expire though.
Ok, how would I check for leaks?

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Unread 06-29-2013, 05:15 PM   #762
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A lot, autozone special pads are probably $50 bucks and rotors are $35 a piece, black magic pads alone are $125. Black Magic pads and rotors are 250ish total.
Black magics are good, but not that good. I would never buy a set at that price even after having firsthand experience.
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Unread 06-29-2013, 05:39 PM   #763
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Ok, how would I check for leaks?

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It's been a while. At the stealership we used the scan tool to close the evap solenoids and used a smoke machine to pump in smoke through that port with the green cap under the hood. At home it's mostly a matter of visual inspection. All Chrysler products were bad for formed hoses to split at the ends or crack in the elbows.
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Unread 06-29-2013, 05:48 PM   #764
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Black magics are good, but not that good. I would never buy a set at that price even after having firsthand experience.
Well thats good to hear first hand experience thats not the typical 'OMG its made by savvy, I love it!' .
What brake upgrade options are there then??

Maybe I should just do a custom/old chevy or GM hydroboost setup. One of my friends just did it on a old FJ and didn't seem to terribly hard to figure out, may have helped that he had a chevy 350 though but I may look into it.
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Black magics are good, but not that good. I would never buy a set at that price even after having firsthand experience.
Night and day difference for me, I like to be able to stop! I did the rears as well and I'll pay money to be safe

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