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Unread 06-26-2012, 04:17 AM   #1
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Jk DO I need a snorkle?

Moving to Phoenix in a few months and wondering if I should add a snorkle. I have beefed up every thing in anticipation of SW trails.

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Unread 06-26-2012, 09:32 AM   #2
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Welcome to AZ. Well one thing we do not have is much rain/ water. Most trails are rocky/sandy- desert/ mountiam trails. You would have to real try to swamp a jeep here. as long as you do not drive into a lake you should be good. Since you are locating in Phoenix. You might want to look into the The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (AZVJC), free Net based 4w'ers. might want to read the trail discriptions. Here its about how big the rocks are not depth of water. So be thinking if you plan to wheel say up to 3.0-3.5 rated trails. I say that because once you get past 3.5 things get rather hard on your Jeep very fast. Damage to body and or underbody is hard to avoid at 4-4+. Do do not do much to your Jeep till after you run some real trails and see where your Jeep takes you. Do not wheel out here alone in the desert heat. Summer temps can leave you dead real fast out there.
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Unread 06-26-2012, 10:35 PM   #3
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x2 what 222doc said, i belong to azvjc, great club, lots of info on our site, look us up when you get out here and will hook you up on some
nice trails, like he said it's not a good idea to wheel alone, not to say you can't, but the desert out here is a whole lot different the florida
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Unread 06-28-2012, 03:53 AM   #4
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Welcome to AZ. Well one thing we do not have is much rain/ water. Most trails are rocky/sandy- desert/ mountiam trails. You would have to real try to swamp a jeep here. as long as you do not drive into a lake you should be good. Since you are locating in Phoenix. You might want to look into the The Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (AZVJC), free Net based 4w'ers. might want to read the trail discriptions. Here its about how big the rocks are not depth of water. So be thinking if you plan to wheel say up to 3.0-3.5 rated trails. I say that because once you get past 3.5 things get rather hard on your Jeep very fast. Damage to body and or underbody is hard to avoid at 4-4+. Do do not do much to your Jeep till after you run some real trails and see where your Jeep takes you. Do not wheel out here alone in the desert heat. Summer temps can leave you dead real fast out there.
Thanks for all the information. We will be in Arizona in ~ 4-8 Months. If very funny, my self-imposed trail rating IS & has been 3.0-3.5.
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Unread 06-28-2012, 03:56 AM   #5
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BTW: I am also adding an aux fan-forced trans cooler. Should I also add an aux engine oil cooler?
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Unread 06-28-2012, 09:44 AM   #6
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BTW: I am also adding an aux fan-forced trans cooler. Should I also add an aux engine oil cooler?
you can add those things though i have heard its warranty voider too.?

The new trans has a seperate cooler now. Even here in this heat off road i have had no issues over heating the trans or motor even running the air on hard trails 3.5-4.25. @ 110+ degrees. The new Jk is not my old 66cj for sure.

looking at your set up in your profile you look very well set up for our trails to 3.5
You will find in AZ there are alot of Jeep clubs too. many events every year. Maybe we will see you at the desert splash, or the Hard core poker run(though this is one event that beat my jeep up alot trails start at 3.5) I had a good time though).
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Unread 06-28-2012, 04:47 PM   #7
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Thx Doc
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Unread 07-06-2012, 05:10 AM   #8
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Very rarely will you NEED a snorkel here. I know that the Dugas road run takes you across the Verde river and although it's not neccissarily needed for that crossing, you can't ever be positive of that rivers depth. It's always changing. Christopher creek, oak creek (down range from Sedona), some of the local rivers an tributarys during the monsoon floods will require a snorkel...of course if your planning on crossing a flood you're an idiot; snorkel or not.

Around here a snorkel is nothing more than an extra piece of mind. You almost never run into water, but when you do, you'll wish you had a snorkel. Lol
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Unread 09-02-2012, 02:16 AM   #9
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The only time i may need a snorkel is when my neighbor breaks a sprinkler head. Then im pissed off cause the spray off the tires mixes with the layer of dust and makes my jeep look dirty.
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Unread 09-09-2012, 03:34 PM   #10
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Very rarely will you NEED a snorkel here. I know that the Dugas road run takes you across the Verde river and although it's not neccissarily needed for that crossing, you can't ever be positive of that rivers depth. It's always changing. Christopher creek, oak creek (down range from Sedona), some of the local rivers an tributarys during the monsoon floods will require a snorkel...of course if your planning on crossing a flood you're an idiot; snorkel or not.

Around here a snorkel is nothing more than an extra piece of mind. You almost never run into water, but when you do, you'll wish you had a snorkel. Lol
On the Verde up here, it's unlikely you'll need a snorkel, and if you do the current will be so swift you're going to need much more than a snorkel; a life jacket will be more useful. That's prettymuch the sory for all the rivers up here.

This is not me, but shows what's more typical:
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