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Unread 07-20-2013, 12:05 AM   #1
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Bully dog jeep programmer???

I am considering a programmer from bullydog for the jk...any one running one? Any suggestions?

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Unread 07-20-2013, 06:34 AM   #2
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Programmers are pointless on Gas engines the only real benefit you get is the speedo calibration with oversized tires .
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Unread 07-20-2013, 10:20 AM   #3
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Put your hard earned money into other mods that you will see noticeable improvements. Those tuners aren't worth it. My friend has the Edge tuner with the oversize throttle body from edge and cold air intake. It makes more noise and that's about the only noticeable difference. He was pissed.
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Unread 07-20-2013, 11:52 AM   #4
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Check the JK Tech forum. Some of the tuners actually have a significant impact on the 3.8/auto combination, but it's mostly due to the effects on the shift points. I don't recall specifics on this one, though.

And yeah tuners can have a MASSIVE impact on gas engines...it all depends on the engine and what else has been done. I've got a buddy that picked up about 60 hp from a tune (obviously not a jeep).
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Unread 07-20-2013, 07:22 PM   #5
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I am considering a programmer from bullydog for the jk...any one running one? Any suggestions?
I have the super chips tuner. It made a noticeable difference on the 3.8. It adjust the power a little in the power tune that is very noticeable, but I am running the mileage tune now because I like the shift points better for the way I drive.

I am not familiar with the bully dog, but check out the jk section on jeep form and do a search. There is lots of info there.
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Unread 07-20-2013, 07:35 PM   #6
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Programmers are pointless on Gas engines the only real benefit you get is the speedo calibration with oversized tires .
I don't mean to be an @$$, and I type this with the utmost respect (I really am not trying to start a fight), but I don't think you have a JK, and I don't think you have driven every gas engine with and without a tuner.

I did buy a tuner for my 05 Rubicon. That was a complete waste of money. There are definitely vehicles that don't benefit much from a tuner, but you can't say, with a blanket statement, that all tuners a waste of money on a gasoline engine.

The OP has a 2011, so he has the 3.6L motor. If it were me, I would want the opinion of people that have the 3.6 and have tried a tuner on that motor.

My 2010 jk with the 3.8L has benefited greatly from a tuner. I get more power, better drivability, and it corrected my speedo and trans shift points. IMHO, if you have a modified JK with the 3.8L POS, a tuner is an absolute MUST. It won't add 60 HP, but it will certainly give more power and better drivability. Maybe it is just from adjusting the speedo and shift points, but I have definitely noticed a huge improvement from my tuned Jeep.

I know nothing of the 3.6L, and that is why the guys on the JK tech section will be most helpful.

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Unread 07-20-2013, 08:12 PM   #7
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The biggest issue I am having is the TRANS hunts horribly between 60-70 mph. I am running 35's with the stock 3:73 gearing.
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Unread 07-20-2013, 08:45 PM   #8
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I was under the impression the 3.6 was new on 2013 engines not 2011.

Edit: 2012 according to google.
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Unread 07-20-2013, 10:53 PM   #9
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I have a Hypertech... not much of a difference. only real thing it does is like mentioned earlier... calibrate for bigger tires for speedo, kinda' nice that it will pull codes though
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I have the superchips tuner and it made noticeable power gains and improved my gas milage. By far though the best way to improve performance with the JK is to re-gear.
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Unread 07-21-2013, 12:18 AM   #11
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If you have another vehicle the bully dog does many different makes and models if you don't like it for your jeep maybe you well like it in your other vehicle.
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Unread 07-21-2013, 01:48 AM   #13
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The 3.6 is in a 2012....which I really wish I had, due to the fact that I have been dealing with that motor or a variation of it for the last 5-6 years. With the programming calibrated for 35's, does it limit the searching?
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Unread 07-25-2013, 02:00 PM   #15
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And yeah tuners can have a MASSIVE impact on gas engines...it all depends on the engine and what else has been done. I've got a buddy that picked up about 60 hp from a tune (obviously not a jeep).
I'm betting your friend has forced induction (turbo or supercharger). They see great improvements from a tune, as do deisels (also usually turbocharged), but for naturally aspirated gas engines you will be lucky to see a 5hp gain.
A tune can make other improvements though, like shift points, throttle response, etc..., which will make it seem like you've gained more.

All the little changes can add up to make a noticable difference though, so it really does depend on the person whether it's worth it or not.
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