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Unread 12-31-2013, 11:30 AM   #1201
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They seem to work fine in my Glock. Though I've never had a failure in my glock.

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Unread 12-31-2013, 11:49 AM   #1202
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Thoughts on steel casings guys? I have not ever fired steel through any of my firearms, however i see deals on them all the time.
I have had so many problems with steel casings that I will never buy them again.
I have had way to many of them not eject from the barrel and jam either from misshaping or due to the coating some put on the steel.

My final straw was when I had a misfire that I could not get out of the barrel. That was something I just dont want to deal with again.

My experience is all related to .223 ammo.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 12:07 PM   #1203
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Thoughts on steel casings guys? I have not ever fired steel through any of my firearms, however i see deals on them all the time.
I've pretty much exclusively run steel casing amo in the SKS and AK. I've had a couple jams but not enough to bother me. Those guns are designed to be pretty forgiving so you may have more issues with a more refined gun.

I've run a few boxes thru the Glock with no issues, but once again that is also a gun that's been designed to be forgiving.

I did have jamming issues with steel casings in the little KalTec .32 but the thing is so little the extra width of the coating on the casing may have come into play.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 12:24 PM   #1204
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I won't use steel cased ammo. I read a torture test using four different ammo types and 10,000 rounds each. Federal brass cased, Tula steel cased, Wolf steel cased, and Brown Bear steel cased. The one rifle firing the Federal ammo was the only one that didn't need a replacement barrel at the end of the test and the only one that exhibited zero malfunctions. The rifle that was shooting the Tula ammo didn't even finish the test. It had failure to extract, failure to cycle, and failure to fire malfunctions. The failure to extract were so bad that the testers decide to remove the rifle and ammo from the test.

Most would say that it is because of the lacquer or polymer coating on the steel cased ammo. The testers determined that that simply wasn't the case. Instead, the pointed to the fact that the extractor on the AR-15 actually comes off the case during cycling (it was designed that way and uses chamber pressure to hold the case against the bolt face until the extractor can grab the case again) and the fact that steel doesn't deform or stretch like brass does causes the failures. Steel cased ammo also has much higher chamber pressures than brass cased ammo. In some cases, it is high enough to be dangerous, hence the reason that the Mil doesn't use steel cased ammo even for training.

Way too many downsides to steel cased ammo for me.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 12:26 PM   #1205
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Steel casings are fine. Looks at AK's and all that ****.

Ran 1000 steel cases rounds through my mini 14, had 1 failure and that was a case expanded in the chamber and got stuck.


the issue is that steel casings tend to be very hard on your chamber and other working parts. Brass is alot softer and therefore can conform, as well as causing less wear against the other parts of your rifle which is steel. You will get much more ware much faster, but unless you're dumping tons of ammo it likely wont be an issue.

I dont like it, because in general it is lower quality ammo, its cheaper, and it DOES tend to have more problems when it comes to feeding/ejecting in some guns, but thats the nature of the beast. It's fine for range ammo, and fine for your regular guns. I would not, however, feed it through any high end guns in any high volume, but thats just me. I've shot it through my M1A, but not much. Not really because i'm worried about the gun, but because it's just low quality ammo and My style of shooting generally requires quality and consistency (not just shooting steel targets at 100 yards or whatever).

Use it, it's not going to ruin your gun, but will wear it out faster (we're still talking thousands and thousands of rounds here), and may or may not be less reliable in the feeding/ejecting department, and will be just as reliable in the "going bang" department.

Edit: looks like andy said basically the same thing.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 12:35 PM   #1206
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Hello all I am new here and thought I'd chime in. I have put 1500 plus rounds of surplus ball ammo through my sks and the only issues I had were from the tapco mag being not properly seated .
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Unread 12-31-2013, 12:47 PM   #1207
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Hi Dan, welcome.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 01:29 PM   #1208
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I won't shoot steel cased ammo just personal preference. I have no experience with steel because I've never shot any of it. I think for "normal" shooter who isn't out more then a couple times a month steel isn't going to really matter as far as wear and tear. I've heard a lot of bad on the quality of steel ammo as well, so I just stay away from it.

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Unread 12-31-2013, 01:57 PM   #1209
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I have seen some of the major mfg on the market offer steel case ammo at a far cheaper price than brass, and i figured, it has to be some what better then the crap coming from over seas. Plus the price differance from steel to brass, i think would make up for buying new parts inside a firearm. Meh, i guess maybe i should just try it and find out.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 03:28 PM   #1210
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you will try it, it will shot, you won't notice any difference other than possibly some malfunctions. POSSIBLY.
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Unread 01-05-2014, 10:27 AM   #1211
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Amyone shooting today?
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Unread 01-06-2014, 02:18 AM   #1212
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I was out at the lightweight sand pit. Had I seen this, you could have joined us.
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Unread 01-06-2014, 11:30 AM   #1213
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I've put 750 rounds of steel thru my glock with many more brass then that over the years with only 2 FTF both being brass. I tend to fire brass mostly but am not opposed to steel when the pricing is right. Then again, it's a glock... When I lived in Az, I shot a LOT more... like probably about 10,000% more then I do living in Vegas. Here it's a pain... In Az, we'd just drive 5 minutes down the road. Heck, when I first moved there, we shot from the front deck, heck, shot out the front door from the rocking chair even once.

Not sure if kermit would have issues with steel though... He hasn't ate enough food yet for me to really even guess that.

Whoa! An actual gun related post from me!!! I've obviously been in Az too much lately! Continue on gun nuts...
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Unread 01-07-2014, 04:39 PM   #1214
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Unread 01-07-2014, 05:11 PM   #1215
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you should post on nevada shooters to avoid dealing with the nutsos on backpage
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