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post #12316 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 03:53 PM
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Khris, I gotta say, I'm pretty good with tools an building stuff, but your fan skills far exceed mine! And thats an understatement. Is there a shop here you can recommend for a custom kit? Bought kits have easily replaced(bought) parts in case of failure.
I know lug studs should be ok, just like glock pistols rarely fail, but I just don't trust them.
Check out Extreme Auto Customs and Scorpion Motorsports. I have heard both do custom suspension stuff. I'm sure if you threw $3.5k at them they would gladly make you whatever you're looking for. Also, maybe as Adam's where they would recommend, or I bet they deal will good kits at a lower price point. They just installed a full Genright package on some TJ that looked sick.

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post #12317 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 03:56 PM
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Khris, I gotta say, I'm pretty good with tools an building stuff, but your fan skills far exceed mine! And thats an understatement. Is there a shop here you can recommend for a custom kit? Bought kits have easily replaced(bought) parts in case of failure.
I know lug studs should be ok, just like glock pistols rarely fail, but I just don't trust them.
The thing is, with a well built custom kit there really shouldn't be anything that fails. Brackets like the ones ruffstuff or Artec Industries make are going to outlast your frame rails. The link arms can be built out of whatever type of insane material you want like say 2" x .375W or something absurd like that. Track bar I'd just go buy an existing one and really that only leaves the rod ends/bushings in the arms to wear out which are just generic run of the mill parts that can be found at Butch's speed shop or Nevada Offroad if you were in a pinch and needed some locally. If not you can mail order them cheaper actually.

As for shops around here, honestly I've only dealt with one and he's getting more and more away from the offroad stuff and working more with just general metal working. Also he's very SLOW. I mean VERY VERY VERY slow so I'm a little gun shy giving his recomendation these days cause of that. Prices are great, work is amazing, time is ummmmm, less then desired typically even for the patient people!

I do most of my work myself so I don't really have any experience with any of the local shops.

Adam's probably knows someone, backcountry probably does too. If the name woolworth or winward ever pops up, run away fast from either of those guys!

Other shops in town I know of but have no experience with is Dirt Freeks and also DERTCO. I don't know how much jeep experience either have though. Both are putting out great high speed rigs. DERTCO's builds are usually borderline artwork actually. I don't know what their pricing is like though.

Talk to Garza, he's got his jeep being custom built with a true 4 link in the rear and wishbone 3 link up front if I remember correctly. No clue what price range he's looking at but from the list of the build it's going to hands down make everyone on this forum drool!

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post #12318 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 03:58 PM
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Put it this way, assuming my garage isn't full to the brim with a project like it is these days. If I ever waste whatever kit is on my jeep, I'll just build whatever replacement parts I need myself. There's not a whole lot too them...

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post #12319 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 04:04 PM
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You know... For your $4K budget you could clean out one side of your garage, park this in there on stands and just start swapping your tj stuff over to it!

http://artecindustries.3dcartstores....sis_p_281.html

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Get the stuff from here

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/

Watch some videos on here

http://www.powerblocktv.com/shows/?show=XT

And build you a custom kit!
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post #12321 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 04:35 PM
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Yeah man, it's just that easy! Just watch a bunch of tv and buy yourself a welder and game on! Here's some more sources...

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/

http://artecindustries.3dcartstores.com/

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/

If I can do it, trust me, anyone can! It's a jeep, not nuclear fision, rocket science or brain surgery! Heck, I bet the geico caveman could do it!


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Iron Rock Off Road has nice stuff too. http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=PFT
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post #12323 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 05:07 PM
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Khris, I gotta say, I'm pretty good with tools an building stuff, but your fan skills far exceed mine! And thats an understatement. Is there a shop here you can recommend for a custom kit? Bought kits have easily replaced(bought) parts in case of failure.
I know lug studs should be ok, just like glock pistols rarely fail, but I just don't trust them.
Not that you are asking for opinions again or anything, but my RE long arm squeaks and moans over every pebble in the road, despite being regularly lubed.
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post #12324 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 05:13 PM
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Not that you are asking for opinions again or anything, but my RE long arm squeaks and moans over every pebble in the road, despite being regularly lubed.
Thanks for the info actually, that squeaking would drive me insane. I hate hearing strange noises. I like a system that talks to me, but I don't want a whiny bytch either! I always figured custom/frankenlifts were more expensive!

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I think I must have missed something. You guys are all talking like he has $4K budgeted for suspension alone. I thought I read $4K for suspension + wheels + tires; which in all honesty isn't that unrealistic of a budget, especially if that includes installation. If it truly is for suspension alone, well... carry on gents!
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A new set of tires is 800-1200....lol

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Personally, I would shy away from the RE long arm. Most LA kits on the market leave a lot to be desired when it comes to suspension geometery. The RE kit is no exception. The rear links just don't have enough seperation at the frame end causing massive anti-squat numbers. Combine that with a radius arm front, and you get a rig that tends to bounce more than Jenna Jamison. Don't get me wrong, the RE kit is better than most such as the Rough Country kit but a good custom build would address those short falls. Unfortunately, most of us (myself included) don't have the knowledge to build a custom kit nor go without a DD for the time it takes to build one.

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post #12328 of 41864 Old 06-12-2012, 06:24 PM
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And if you're like me, I barely understand the principles and geometry of the suspensions. I don't trust my welds with the lives of my family either. I've never built a suspension and don't want to start on something as important as my jeep. If I was building a quad or some biggie for the dirt only, I'd try. There are way more people out there that know more or pretend to know more about this than I do. I need to find somewhere/someone trustworthy that can build a good kit or just find a higher end kit that I can be happy with. I'm searching for a unicorn, I know, but I want as close to OEM ride on road as possible and a highly capable off road set up too. That's why I was set on a long arm! Maybe my train of thought isn't on course?

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Just buy Clayton or BDS....can't go wrong with them....

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I'm willing to spend the money for it to be right! I just don't want to spend the money and have it be a mediocre kit.

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