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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:35 PM   #991
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No problem rabbit, I enjoy healthy argument such as this on, it allows people to voice opinions and is truly American. I know I'm probably not correctly composing myself, and some people may think I'm either a nut, paranoid, stupid, or just plain irrelevant. I like to believe I'm none of those, but who knows. It's really difficult or maybe impossible to predict how you may react in a panic situation, but if one is responsible and has a level head under normal situations, then they will likely make the best decision when panic arises. Thank you for intelligently debating this issue with me. Same to the lawyer. I welcome the debate because we are doing it as adults and not insulting each other in the process.

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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:40 PM   #992
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Also, there is a difference between seeing an animal and seeing an animal running directly at you while growling and barking. Chances are that the two dogs would have sniffed each other to death, and been ok, but I didn't want it to go wrong if they didn't. Perhaps I over reacted, but given my remote location, no people in sight, unknown dog intentions, and resources at my disposal, I felt confident. I know there is no way I was going to outrun the dog, and running just triggers their "chase it" instinct.
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:53 PM   #993
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Ok. If there was a charging bear at 50 yards, carrying a sword, while wearing known gang colors, and yelling in clear English "I'm going to stab, bite and eat you!", I would still hold my fire until it was closer.

I just can't get over that distance. Half a football field is a long way. Ask my team the Jacksonville, Jaguars. Traditionally, they can't seem to get past that 50 yard line. Good thing someone isn't firing warning shots at them.
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Unread 09-05-2011, 10:57 PM   #994
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Lol there's gonna be a pissed off bear because my 45 will just piss it off. 50 yds sounds far, but think about teenagers running it in 5-6 seconds. I ran the 40 in 5.5 and I'm by no stretch of the imagination an athlete. They can close the gap quickly. It's roughly 10 car lengths which is pretty close. 100 yds, you have more options. Think about a mountain lion, it could merely jump the 40yds. A dog is no mtn lion. Rofl
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Unread 09-05-2011, 11:02 PM   #995
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No hard feelings, and none intended. Mostly, just wanted to make it clear that anytime you pull the trigger you are risking jail time or worse, so just make sure it's worth it. I've got a pet peeve where people oversimplify what is a big deal, and perhaps I over reached on it. (Now back to wheelin'!)
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Unread 09-05-2011, 11:27 PM   #996
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Great discussion! If you guys are local and interested, I would love to meet up with you guys for a trail run sometime. There are many places I want to explore. My email is groundrulesjc@hotmail.com, chris
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Unread 09-06-2011, 11:57 AM   #997
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This is why I love this forum two pages of nothing to do with jeeps or wheeling lol. but yes I to think we need to get a nice EZ run set up maybe a BBQ or over night
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Unread 09-06-2011, 02:00 PM   #998
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Davidsonlaw... Is there a tutorial for idiots on what a .kml file is and how to view it? So far it looks like it's a file that's looked at on google earth possibly from what I'm reading searching around? I saw a few pages back pre-selfdefense talk that you discussed a conversion to get it on a garmin gps. Is that something that converts to a .gpx file or what? I've got a Lowrance hand held unit that I'd like to load some of your trails on for future reference on a bored sat or weekday afternoon. I'm new to this whole GPS scene though!


And totally off topic but I got a hyline offroad hood vent setup today that I'm sort of excited to try out. I've been having major heat related issues this summer with my TJ where if I don't park with my hood propped open it won't refire and it actually vacuum locks at the fuel rail. I'm hoping this helps vent the underhood heat! LOL you know, now that summer is virtually behind us!


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Unread 09-06-2011, 03:16 PM   #999
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If you have google earth installed on you computer, you should be able to view the file by double clicking on it where ever you have it saved. If you don't have it, you can download it and install it for free from:

http://www.google.com/earth/index.html

Frankly, this is a really cool tool for checking out routes ahead of time.

I'm not familiar with lowrance, but if it will accept .gpx, the website I referenced above will convert it with no problem.
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Unread 09-06-2011, 04:45 PM   #1000
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Yeah, the Lowrance for sure accepts .gpx files. Thanks for the info... I don't have google earth downloaded but I will now. LOL I really should upgrade my home computer so I don't have to screw around at work during breaks with this kind of stuff!
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Unread 09-06-2011, 07:12 PM   #1001
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Google Earth is a great tool and makes it easier for us to trade trail locations. When someone posts coordinates, you can enter them into Google Earth first for a good look before entering the data into your GPS. I usually print a wide shot of the entire trail system I'll be traveling that day. Quick reference is easier than having to go wide on the GPS.

Also, have a look at this topo map for your GPS:
http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/86/

The data for this map was collected from several different sources. Together, they form the most complete topo map I've found to date. It's also free to download and use without limitations. I paid around $100 for the Garmin topo map and the free one posted above showed more trails and with greater detail.

I have pictures and coordinates from todays trail. Will post them up shortly.
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Unread 09-06-2011, 07:15 PM   #1002
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Is there a tutorial for idiots on what a .kml file is and how to view it?
As Davidsonlaw explain, it is a file viewable on Google Earth. Here is a beginner tutorial that should cover some of the basics:
http://www.google.com/earth/learn/beginner.html

Last edited by YouStupidBunny; 09-06-2011 at 07:34 PM.. Reason: Forgot to include link.
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Unread 09-06-2011, 07:25 PM   #1003
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Started a thread called members helping members. It's purpose is to connect people to others that can help them repair, maintain, or upgrade their jeeps. Some people may not have the knowledge, tools, or help they need to do work on their own jeeps. It is sort of a pay it forward idea that can help everyone learn how to do things themselves and save money.
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Unread 09-06-2011, 07:37 PM   #1004
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You're advertising for another thread in this thread about Vegas trails? Seriously? Nice thing you're trying to do, but...wow.
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Unread 09-06-2011, 07:40 PM   #1005
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For those who like to follow along on Google Earth, I'll be including coordinates with this picture essay.

We started the day at the Cottonwood trail:
3559'50.59"N , 11526'48.39"W

For those new to Google Earth, start the program and enter the coordinates into the Search/Fly to section at the top left.
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