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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:01 PM   #36451
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yeah its a ORFab sport cage
Just be sure you never "use" that cage. It was given to me when I acquired that CJ and, I promise you don't want 1/4" dash bolts being the support of the front of that. Sooner than later I would cut off those a-pillar down bars and just bend new ones that go all the way to the floor and at least onto a floor plate.

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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:02 PM   #36452
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That's interesting that ORF doesn't use DOM. In the TJ cage thread they are comparing them to weld in kits that use DOM and I don't remember anyone mentioning they are using a diffrent tubing.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:04 PM   #36453
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Just be sure you never "use" that cage. It was given to me when I acquired that CJ and, I promise you don't want 1/4" dash bolts being the support of the front of that. Sooner than later I would cut off those a-pillar down bars and just bend new ones that go all the way to the floor and at least onto a floor plate.
I'll second this. I have plates that bolt to the dash in addition to bolting to the floor and they bent significantly in that small flop I had. You may want to go ahead and replace them with tubes to the floor now while you're working on it.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:06 PM   #36454
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That's interesting that ORF doesn't use DOM. In the TJ cage thread they are comparing them to weld in kits that use DOM and I don't remember anyone mentioning they are using a diffrent tubing.
They don't have to. It was only designed as a sport cage, just like any company that uses plate as an a-pillar support (I know you know this 1st hand) . Basically it is just for looks, I could probably knock that cage off the dash with one hit from a sledge hammer!! If I would have continued to build that CJ, that cage was going in the scrap steel pile.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:07 PM   #36455
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They don't have to. It was only designed as a sport cage, just like any company that uses plate as an a-pillar support (I know you know this 1st hand) . Basically it is just for looks, I could probably knock that cage off the dash with one hit from a sledge hammer!! If I would have continued to build that CJ, that cage was going in the scrap steel pile.
That's where mine is heading. I'm schedualed to have the new cage installed the last weekend this month.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:33 PM   #36456
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Just be sure you never "use" that cage. It was given to me when I acquired that CJ and, I promise you don't want 1/4" dash bolts being the support of the front of that. Sooner than later I would cut off those a-pillar down bars and just bend new ones that go all the way to the floor and at least onto a floor plate.
Later on I'm going to make frame tieins at this point its been about 4 months and I just wanna wheel
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Unread 04-03-2014, 01:45 PM   #36457
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My daughter, who turns 3 in three weeks just said, "I want select fire, daddy!" After shooting a CB cap from a single six. My little gun monster, lol That is all!
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Unread 04-03-2014, 03:14 PM   #36458
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Nothing wrong with HREW if designed right (not saying the ORF one is) but I'm sure everyone has seen the video of that ORF cage rolling in moab.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 03:24 PM   #36459
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Found it!!! This is 1.5" HREW. In comparison, the race truck in my garage has a cab built from 2" DOM, the rest of the truck is 1.75" dom...



Decent sized piece of equipment...



CRUSH IT!!!!



CRAP!!! Tire's off the ground already!!!



Bring in the big guns!!! LOL This quote is attached with this next picture...

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and after numerous bucket drops the roof would still not give way....look close to the air under his tires too...


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the only way he could get the roof to fail was to stab down on it with the bucket teeth and puncture the tubes, then it all went downhill fast...


Eventually it lost!





Point being, don't underestimate HREW... It's still pretty damn good stuff! Especially if used correctly! My toyota I sold was 100% HREW.


The truck above in it's glory days...

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Unread 04-03-2014, 03:26 PM   #36460
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Hmmmm. I may have located my unicorn axle. Not sure yet, but if I did I could have it in my jeep for less than the cost of the driveshaft work.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 03:39 PM   #36461
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BTW, if you haven't seen the video... Here's that ORF sport cage getting some test work.








It did pull away from the dash in that roll though...





Still pretty square though...






Just some pictures and a video of that cage in action... I actually had nothing to do with that product, it existed when I started working there. I did a lot of the tire carriers for ORF, JK bumpers, JK sliders and yeah... I actually still have .jpegs of some of my cad work from when I was there in my photobucket that I had sent to friends back in those days for comments.







These were my doing...



And these are always fun pictures to stumble on from those days, this was a "interesting" day at work! LOL







Can you say BRAND NEW AND BORROWED FROM THE LOCAL DEALERSHIP!!! LOL

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Unread 04-03-2014, 05:03 PM   #36462
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No one, at least not me is questioning the use of HREW. But in Rodney's case of the a-pillar attachment point being 3 1/4" bolts through 1/8" sheet metal, he has about the same safety factor of PVC.
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Unread 04-03-2014, 05:21 PM   #36463
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No one, at least not me is questioning the use of HREW. But in Rodney's case of the a-pillar attachment point being 3 1/4" bolts through 1/8" sheet metal, he has about the same safety factor of PVC.
Lol. Whatever its still way better then the factory sport cage
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Unread 04-03-2014, 05:23 PM   #36464
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Lol
You know your taking me for a ride when you get it going!!!
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Unread 04-03-2014, 05:35 PM   #36465
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I like the color more each time you post it. Looks good.
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