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post #34291 of 41853 Old 01-07-2014, 12:43 PM
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Get the BFG ATs. I have the general grabber ATs on mine(same ones Merrick has,) and I think they're much louder on road than the BFGs. I may be crazy, but that my thought anyway. I ran through two sets of the BFG ATs on my Jeep and had no complaints(other than them chunking.)


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post #34292 of 41853 Old 01-07-2014, 12:47 PM
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Okay, question time.

You guys know me, my jeep, and the type of driving/trail riding I do. FWIW, the most intense trail i have ever done is Potato Ridge, and that was 3 years ago when I first bought the wag. No idea if I'd ever even try it again. Most of my trail riding would be backroading. Wheeler pass, mormon well, cottonwood canyon, carpenter canyon, etc.

Not sure when but I'll likely be looking into new tires in the next year or two. The reason this is pertainent right now, is because I'm going to just suck it up and buy a new spare. This means I want to use the new spare as one of my 4 tires when the time comes for new, so I only have to use 3, and one of my used mud's will go in the trunk as the spare. Make sense?

So, the question is.

BFG KM2's or AT's?

AT's would likely wear better, and should be better road manners (I don't really know, never owned a set). the road manners (noise/handling) is somewhat important because i drive alot on the streets, and use it for long trips sometimes. the less noisy and rattly the better.

Mud's will obviously perform better off pavement. And will still last longer than I need them to, but they are louder, and a lil more expensive.

Do you all think I would lose anything by switching to AT's? I have never driven them offroad so don't know if they suck compared to Muds, or if the difference would even matter for somebody like me.
Go with the A/T's in the end you will be much happier with them. KM2's are for people who either use them or just want the "look". The road manners of the A/T are hands down bette and be safer in the long run. Good luck, and i hope this tidbit helps.
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post #34293 of 41853 Old 01-07-2014, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys. Seems to make sense. I hear the KO's are great offroad, just had no idea if it would even matter for somebody like me. I think the cost/road manners will make up for it. I had muds on my TJ, and they were great, but oddly enough I do more highway driving in the Wag than the TJ, haha. I hear the KO's are even great at gripping rocks and whatnot.

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post #34294 of 41853 Old 01-07-2014, 12:55 PM
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Sooooo, after my first email to Savvy he seemed very surprised by the damage and asked for more pictures. I sent the additional pictures and was honest with him about what I was doing when it happened but haven't heard back from him yet. I can't find anything anywhere on one of the skids breaking this bad so Iím wondering if I have the dubious distinction of being the first person to totally destroy one.
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My experience with the KO's... I had A/T's on my yota, no issues, swapped on some 50% big o tires, no issues... Swapped on some KO's that were probably 80-90% tread and above 45ish in the dirt I might as well have been on ice! Only change I made was the tires. Previous to me putting the KO's on mine, they had been mounted on the TPF truck and while I never drove it with those tires, Jason used to always complain that the rear always wanted to slide out and pass the front and it wondered a lot and wouldn't track with confidence. I always thought it was just the truck or his driving or something but it very well may have been the tires. He hasn't had the same complaint since but then again, it's a much different truck beyond just different tires now. But I'm skeptical about running the KO's on something that would possibly cruise a decent speed in the dirt. Even just a graded dirt road, my truck would wander and slide and drift and skid way more then I wanted.


And speaking of tires, I had to tear into one of my expo tires last night to replace a leaking valve stem. Just another reason beadlocks are stupid! Should've been $10 at the local mexican tire shop but nope, I got to spend 45 mins wrestling around with it instead.

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My experience with the KO's... I had A/T's on my yota, no issues, swapped on some 50% big o tires, no issues... Swapped on some KO's that were probably 80-90% tread and above 45ish in the dirt I might as well have been on ice! Only change I made was the tires. Previous to me putting the KO's on mine, they had been mounted on the TPF truck and while I never drove it with those tires, Jason used to always complain that the rear always wanted to slide out and pass the front and it wondered a lot and wouldn't track with confidence. I always thought it was just the truck or his driving or something but it very well may have been the tires. He hasn't had the same complaint since but then again, it's a much different truck beyond just different tires now. But I'm skeptical about running the KO's on something that would possibly cruise a decent speed in the dirt. Even just a graded dirt road, my truck would wander and slide and drift and skid way more then I wanted.
good to know. Does it apply to my driving? Not really, haha, but good to know none the less.

I assume they would also be better in inclement weather than the muds. Both jeeps are like slip n slide when it rains here.

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My old lowered mazda 3 did 45mph down some dirt roads... You're telling my your wagon cant?

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i suppose i suppose.

annd Matthew, you were the one who was saying discount wouldnt mount or touch the 10.50's because they were on 6" rims right?

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Thanks guys. Seems to make sense. I hear the KO's are great offroad, just had no idea if it would even matter for somebody like me. I think the cost/road manners will make up for it. I had muds on my TJ, and they were great, but oddly enough I do more highway driving in the Wag than the TJ, haha. I hear the KO's are even great at gripping rocks and whatnot.

$716 for a set of AT KO's on ebay.
$700 shipped on Amazon.

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$700 shipped on Amazon.
Dang, never even thought about that! Good lookin' out!

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i suppose i suppose.

annd Matthew, you were the one who was saying discount wouldnt mount or touch the 10.50's because they were on 6" rims right?
Yup, it sucked. But, they are approved for 6.5 so just tell them your rims are 6.5 if they ask.
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Dang, never even thought about that! Good lookin' out!

Link if you didnt see it

Then again. Amazon just started charging sales tax in Nevada so Ebay may be cheaper. Granted this isnt an amazon sold product.

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Sooooo, after my first email to Savvy he seemed very surprised by the damage and asked for more pictures. I sent the additional pictures and was honest with him about what I was doing when it happened but haven't heard back from him yet. I can't find anything anywhere on one of the skids breaking this bad so Iím wondering if I have the dubious distinction of being the first person to totally destroy one.
I took your Torx wrench out of my control arm yesterday. It survived, just has some scratches on it. I will give it back to you next time.
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Yup, it sucked. But, they are approved for 6.5 so just tell them your rims are 6.5 if they ask.
Oh, so they just did it anyway? lol.

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. Anybody wanna buy a set of 33x10.50's? haha. Also have a set of rims, 5x5.5
How much?
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