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post #32956 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 09:51 AM
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In a word, Yes. You have wider tires for more surface area (hydroplaning option) on a lightweight vehicle so it will automatically be more prone to slip n slide. Tire tread makes a huge difference in the rain too and on grooved surfaces; the combination of all four factors (light vehicle, large wide tires, wet surface & grooved) can make for an interesting experience, throw in a limited slip that can engage at any time when it detects slippage and a suspension you aren't as used to; that can get downright scary.

My rig follows grooved roads even in dry weather and gets a LOT more squirrely on wet roads, now that I have selectable lockers its not as bad as with previous rigs, but it definitely demands more awareness and attention when driving.

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post #32957 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 10:00 AM
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In a word, Yes. You have wider tires for more surface area (hydroplaning option) on a lightweight vehicle so it will automatically be more prone to slip n slide. Tire tread makes a huge difference in the rain too and on grooved surfaces; the combination of all four factors (light vehicle, large wide tires, wet surface & grooved) can make for an interesting experience, throw in a limited slip that can engage at any time when it detects slippage and a suspension you aren't as used to; that can get downright scary.

My rig follows grooved roads even in dry weather and gets a LOT more squirrely on wet roads, now that I have selectable lockers its not as bad as with previous rigs, but it definitely demands more awareness and attention when driving.
Its crazy how little things can change it 100% like I have no more bump steer since I put the lift in. But rain makes it drive like *** :/ the tires are goodyear silent armor there like a AT you would think they would be fine in the rain...
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post #32958 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 10:21 AM
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Did you get an alignment??

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post #32959 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 10:37 AM
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Did you get an alignment??

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No, everything is back to factory specs though
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post #32960 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 10:47 AM
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I have never seen or heard of a vehicle specifically modified for off road performance (i.e. lift, oversize tires, lockers, etc.) do as well on road as it did in stock form. I feel your pain, that's why I rarely drive my rig on slippery roads (unless I am intentionally wanting to have some wild and crazy driving fun)

All that aside, the roads seem to be (at least to me) slicker than usual during this rain storm. It seems like it wasn't too long ago that we had a rainstorm so I don't think it would be the typical overabundance of oil like usually happens when we have the first rain in a long time. I dunno, maybe I am just getting old(er).
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post #32961 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 11:01 AM
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I've forgotten all the physics terms but the basic concept is that the wider tire result in less weight per square inch so it's easier for the tire to break loose in a slick environment. Throw in the limited slip and you're going to have traction issues especially on turns were the limited slip is trying to get the tires to both turn at the same speed.
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post #32962 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 11:18 AM
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Wait until Andy gets ahold of this question; he will probably have every technical term in the book memorized and speak (err.. type) so eloquently that it will make us all look even more caveman-ish than we already do.
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post #32963 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 12:55 PM
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No, everything is back to factory specs though
i would get an alignment

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post #32964 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 02:12 PM
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We went up to Mt Charleston Last night. There was about 18 inches on the trail we where on.
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post #32965 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 02:20 PM
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My jeep handles as good as or better than when stock! It does lean more in the turns, but I've got a heavy ashed rack up there now too!
Without getting too far into mods, I would seriously recommend slowing down in your turns! I drove mine today and purposely tried to get it to understeer, and I couldn't get it to! I approached corners at 25-30mph and it just leaned in and took the corners. There's either a speed issue( doubtful) or you've got a serious alignment issue. Nothing else has changed, right?

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post #32966 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 02:23 PM
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Just thought of something else. How old are your tires? I've seen tires get hard and glossy with age in the heat. That may be all the problem! If you wanna swing by an throw my tires on for a quick test, hit me up!

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A little bit of spam but the prices were good enough I figured I'd pass on the word... The 50" bar is the same one we run on the race truck and my expo. Smoking price on bars!


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post #32968 of 41864 Old 11-23-2013, 05:50 PM
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Can you use stock 17" jk rims on 12.5 tires?
I'm eyeballing these because I'm starting to think the tires are hard and that's what's causing the slickness.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/4202683077.html
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