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Unread 09-10-2013, 08:22 PM   #30961
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I am trying to decide between these two bikes: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...9_comp_xii.htm and http://www.konaworld.com/lava_dome.cfm

The Kona supposedly has a stronger frame, but has lower grade components, would cost about $10 more but already be assembled, adjusted/tuned due to purchasing at local bike shop.
The Motobecane's frame supposedly isn't as strong, but has significantly higher grade components, would cost less, and would require some assembly (no problem) adjustment/tuning (no idea how to do this).

I'm not a 'hardcore' biker so I think a super beefy frame (if one really IS that much better than the other) is negligible, but spending another $85 to get a 'some assembly required' bike tuned/adjusted doesn't sound too appealing either.

Anyone have any advice?

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Unread 09-10-2013, 08:50 PM   #30962
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I'll speak on behalf of Marn here, just buy another gun!
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:11 PM   #30963
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I don't know anything about the monavie bike or whatever it was and I'm far from a bike expert but I do know KONA's have had a pretty good reputation for years and years now.

What are you looking to do with the bike? Just general fitness stuff or what? I've gotta mtn bike in my shed that's brand new... I should really dust it off and go peddle some fat around the block someday! LOL



Oh and Andy, Picked up a Dewalt Cordless Impact tonight just so you won't have to whine next time! LOL Just tested it, it works, probably too good, I think it'll strip the lugs if you're not careful with it.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:18 PM   #30964
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Just looking to do some basic riding and light trails. Kona has a good reputation, but on multiple forums motobecane has proven to be a big bang for the buck.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:31 PM   #30965
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Yeah, I can't comment on the motobecane at all cause I have zero experience with it. Back in college I had a Kona and had a roomie that raced dual slalom on one and we both liked them. Now I have some goofy full suspension mongoose... I'd be down for some entry level fat man trail riding here once temps come down and my life isn't full of deadlines, say... Oct'ish.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:34 PM   #30966
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Just looking to do some basic riding and light trails. Kona has a good reputation, but on multiple forums motobecane has proven to be a big bang for the buck.
You're making me want to get one....

I vote Motobecane because of what you said, I'm a huge fan of bang for buck.

As for the assembly and adjustments, it's probably just final derailleur adjustments.

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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:41 PM   #30967
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Oh and Andy, Picked up a Dewalt Cordless Impact tonight just so you won't have to whine next time! LOL Just tested it, it works, probably too good, I think it'll strip the lugs if you're not careful with it.
But I whine so well! I was actually thinking about making one of those speed handle things that you posted a video of a while back. I have all the stuff needed to do it sitting in my garage.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:43 PM   #30968
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I'm still going to keep the lug wrench on the truck for dead battery reasons and whatever else but should be a nice addition. I need to play with it to get a feel for how tight is too tight! I tightened the lugs by hand like I normally do, then hit them with it and it has no problem cranking them down tighter! LOL
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:46 PM   #30969
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for the most part these days you are only paying for the frame. All of the other components are built by other companies. So basically read the reviews at what geometry will be good for your body then from there see what has the best component packages.


And while I do fully agree with the budget type approach, be prewarned that not all bikes use the same geometry or measurements. So there is a possibility that you can get a bike that will not fit you right. You need to look at both seat to handle bar measurements and seat to pedal measurements. Some bikes use different geometry for different situations too... for example you do not want the same postures on a downhill bike as you would want on a cross country type mountain bike.

With that said I would advise just hitting up a good local store and try on a few bikes to see what you like and put a bike in your hand to see the quality difference between the component levels. Las Vegas Cyclery http://lasvegascyclery.com/ is one of the better local stores that I have found. They normally have plenty of stock and if you are looking for a cheaper approach they normally have their rental bikes for sale too. Yeah maybe a scratch here and there, but they have been gone through by their techs.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:48 PM   #30970
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I'm still going to keep the lug wrench on the truck for dead battery reasons and whatever else but should be a nice addition. I need to play with it to get a feel for how tight is too tight! I tightened the lugs by hand like I normally do, then hit them with it and it has no problem cranking them down tighter! LOL
Does it have a torque limiter? Something you can set to ensure you don't go too tight?
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Unread 09-10-2013, 09:50 PM   #30971
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X2 on Las Vegas cyclery. They were super cool both times I've delt with them. Both times I delt with one of the part owners, and he was very helpful.
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Unread 09-10-2013, 10:02 PM   #30972
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Go test ride a bunch of bikes. That's going to be the most helpful thing. You may think you like one thing but something else may be way more comfortable for you.

Hit up McGhies. Their service was 10x better than any of the other places we were shopping.
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Unread 09-11-2013, 05:44 AM   #30973
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Thanks for all of the tips/advice! I have been to a number of different shops including the LVC, Dicks, Broken Spoke, & Southwest Bikes and what I learned completely changed what I thought I wanted which is what lead me to narrowing down to those two bikes. Unfortunately even the rentals are way out of my budget to purchase and I have been thus far unsuccessful in finding a good private party used bike that has what I want in it. After reading through multiple forums etc. on the net for a few hours I am leaning toward the Motobecane but now I am gonna really have to double check all the frame measurements to make sure I get exactly the right one before I order if I end up going that route. Dan, the manager at Southwest Bikes is an awesome guy and I have spent multiple hours talking with, even mentioned that for what that Motobecane has, it's a great deal if the frame is going to be strong enough for me and he wouldn't have any problem working on a bike I ordered if I didn't get one from his shop .. Totally cool guy. If anyone is looking for a great place with awesome customer service I recommend hitting those guys up too.
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Unread 09-11-2013, 06:53 AM   #30974
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Khris, in response to your twerking video post the other day. It was a fake.

Check out this article from USA TODAY:

Kimmel: 'Twerking girl on fire' video was a hoax

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Unread 09-11-2013, 07:17 AM   #30975
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yeah I saw that yesterday, pretty funny!
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