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post #24676 of 41864 Old 04-18-2013, 09:42 AM
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Ha ha, damn auto correct. when are you going blind again?
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My issue was I couldn't get the balls centered. I had to use some extra force to get everything lined up right. It didn't take me long.


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post #24677 of 41864 Old 04-18-2013, 11:25 AM
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To do:

  • design & fabricate new steering system (mockup sunday "hopefully" and fabricate early next week)
  • hard mount MAF (tonight)
  • Wire MAF (tonight)
  • Temporarily install current air filter (tonight)
  • order new quality air filter, not POS kragen cone filter (tomorrow)
  • Find vent for breather tube from old intake (asap)
  • install 90 degree fittings for reservoirs (tonight/tomorrow)
  • Figure out where to and mount shock reservoirs (tomorrow)
  • install front brake lines and brake calipers (sunday)
  • Mount brake lines (sunday)
  • weld engine cage crosstubes (tonight)
  • swap out front door speakers (tonight/tomorrow)
  • install new cd player (tomorrow night)
  • install sub/amp combo (next week)
  • finish 2 remaining rear fender mounts (next week)
  • Redo drivers side rear door fender (next week)
  • install headliner (2 weeks)
  • fabricate rock sliders (next weekend)
  • install front bumper (as soon as steering is finished)
  • install rear bumper (next week)
  • strengthen rear bumper and fabricate hitch into bumper design (2 weeks)
  • tint windows (asap once driving, next week or following?)
  • body/paint (after a couple test runs...)




  • Wire fuel pump on race truck (tonight)
  • mount fuel pump to housing (tonight)
  • test run fuel pump and fire truck (tonight)
  • if good, install fuel pump completely (tonight)
  • Change tires on truck and tighten all lug nuts (sat morning)
  • Torque Leaf spring bolts (sat morning)
  • Check all fluids (sat morning)
  • close up fuse panels (sat morning)
  • install in car cameras (sat morning)
  • Gather tools, pit boxes and truck support gear (sat morning)
  • destroy truck (sat.)


There's more to it but yeah, that's what I've got going on in my spare time. Anyone bored and looking to do something and feel they can handle anything on that list, I won't deny any volunteers as long as you don't F it up worse then I would! LOL

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Hey Khris, was looking through a build thread and came across this. Any idea how something like it would happen? Weak welds? **** fab work? Huck the **** out of it? If you look at the first pic, it looks like the tube itself failed right below where the two tubes from the A pillar meet in the front of the engine compartment. I just don't see how this is even remotely possible without ****ing something else up but there was no damage to the beams or radius arms. The radius arm mounts did fail later though.
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My issue was I couldn't get the balls centered. I had to use some extra force to get everything lined up right. It didn't take me long.


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post #24679 of 41864 Old 04-18-2013, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
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does anybody have one of those ball joint split sleeve adjuster thingy sockets that i could borrow?

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post #24680 of 41864 Old 04-18-2013, 12:15 PM
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Hey Khris, was looking through a build thread and came across this. Any idea how something like it would happen? Weak welds? **** fab work? Huck the **** out of it? If you look at the first pic, it looks like the tube itself failed right below where the two tubes from the A pillar meet in the front of the engine compartment. I just don't see how this is even remotely possible without ****ing something else up but there was no damage to the beams or radius arms. The radius arm mounts did fail later though.
Looks like thin walled cheap tubing. you can see in the first picture that the tubing is actually torn. I am betting that the welds not being painted cannot help any either. Just look at the rust running off of the tubing.

Also I would question where they secured to the firewall... did they build up the firewall.

Either way even with subpar material It is safe to say that they hit a little bit more than a speed bump at the mall.

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post #24681 of 41864 Old 04-18-2013, 12:33 PM
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Andrew, nope... sorry...


Andy, There's no tubes running to the outboard most tubes and only a single vertical tube down the frame rail even close to the shock mounts. So really he only had one tube supporting the whole front end on that thing plus the welds to the a-pillar and lower windshield tube which I'd be willing to bet weren't full 360 welded cause access to that spot is virtually impossible without serious cutting. His setup is fairly similar to what I did on Jasons and my truck too actually but he doesn't have near the support tubes that I have. I'm still tempted to put one more in on each side on Jason's to be honest just for piece of mind.

See, same "v" type setup with the shock mounts between the tubes.



But I've got tubes running down to the frame rails supporting both sides of the shock mounts with some angle to give chassis structure as well.



At least in my head it makes sense. LOL Hopefully jason's truck never ends up looking like that!




If it does, we had a good time, out comes the engine and the saws and I fix it.

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Looks like it wasn't properly welded to the body. That's probably where the failurestarted

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post #24683 of 41864 Old 04-18-2013, 12:36 PM
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Yeah, material choice didn't even cross my mind. Depending what he used it could've had a lot of flex and movement in general and finally gave up. Seeing that picture really makes me think I want to try and stuff another tube into Jason's truck though again. I convinced myself with the help of a mechanical engineer friend that it wasn't needed but I've seen something in video that still lingers in the back of my head.

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Also, if that had been mine, I'd have put a tube from that bend at what you'd probably call the top of the core support tube down to the frame rail leaning backwards to triangle that in. Then from where that tube hit the frame, I'd have done another tube upwards to in front of the shock mounts on the outter most tubes.

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Not sure if I ever showed you these pictures but this is a ranger I did coilovers on years ago in Az. It wasn't caged or anything, just a simple engine cage but you can see i'm supported to the frame on both sides of the upper shock mount, he isn't... It creates a spot for leverage and flexing.






Not the best but working around the space I had and the guy not wanting to relocate or ditch anything, the little kicker brace tube to the top of the frame rail in the picture below was really all I could manage.







Welds are ugly! That may have even been done with my 110V welder before I had my 220... It was at least 6 years ago that I did that. LOL


I also built the light bar and mounted the rear glass. The rear cage wasn't me, that was done by S&S fab which used to be in AZ but is now up in Oregon and is who built the skidplate under the 9" on the race truck.




This is how the truck showed up to my house... Yes, that's the driveway at my house in Az. Zombie Apocolypse, that's one of my 2 options to escape to. Actually it's my plan B. Plan A involves a cabin near the hammers...


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Just had to post up so Khris was not talking to himself.


Oh yeah Khris the transfer case knob came loose the other day. At first I thought it was just your install job, but the lower part of the knob is loose on the shaft. So if you put enough pressure on it, it works the set screw loose. I did not want to monkey torque the set screw down and strip out the treads. If it comes loose again I will just wrap some tape around the shaft to give it some more girth (Just for you Andy!!) to stop the movement at the bottom.

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That bed cage

I just can't figure out why anybody would build that.

The front looks better but like you said, those welds look horrible.

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Andy what did you ever decide on the 40k service?

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Just had to post up so Khris was not talking to himself.


Oh yeah Khris the transfer case knob came loose the other day. At first I thought it was just your install job, but the lower part of the knob is loose on the shaft. So if you put enough pressure on it, it works the set screw loose. I did not want to monkey torque the set screw down and strip out the treads. If it comes loose again I will just wrap some tape around the shaft to give it some more girth (Just for you Andy!!) to stop the movement at the bottom.
So basically you're thinking the set screw isn't getting enough grip onto it? there's a "flat" on the shaft if I remember right. Make sure it's squared up to that flat while tightening. Basically kinda rock/twist it a bit while tightening so that it'll want to naturally square up.

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