Originally Posted by andy02
Why avoid the Kings and Fox? Kings were my first choice but realistically I was going to run FOA or Race Runner.
Length reasons, the way the top caps are designed, the SAW are shorter and space issues I'm running into, the difference would be night and day.
Originally Posted by Garza
Not true...but another story for another day lol
Curious, what brands have you had first hand experience with and how many have you had apart to see the insides of? Not questioning you but curious cause I personally have owned, rebuilt, revalved, and used Bilstein 9100 and 7100, SAW 2.5 racerunners, King 2.5 Race series and prerunner series, King 3.0 prerunners series and radflo 2.5's. Along with those I've owned Radflo, Bilstein, FOA, and King bumpstops. Out of ALL of those, I've NEVER had any leak EVER with only exception being one bilstein bump. I do have FOA bumps right now though and will never own another pair of those at least.
BTW, when I say "owned" I'm tossing Jason's truck into the mix since I think at this point it's been in my possession about as long as it's been in his physically and by the time he gets home it will have been in my possession longer then his for sure! LOL
I don't have any experience with Fox though.
Internal wise, they all are a bit different but honestly, I could put any brand on anything in my driveway and make them all work equally as good without much effort. Assuming they all bolted into place... The length differences would make that real world statement the hardest part to prove.
My toyota, I've had SAW shocks on it for 7+ years, no leaks, no issues. My old exploder, bilstein all around, never a leak, never an issue, including the time I drug the rear shocks for a bit when the top mounts ripped out of the truck on the rear. Kings, well, honestly, I'm relatively new to them but so far, they seem the same as everything else and they obviously have the reputation they do.
I know fox has a VERY VERY VERY good reputation but I can't speak 1st hand on them. I do know their valving lingo is different then all the rest though. When people talk about what shim stacks they're running, I don't really know what they're referring to.
On top of that, IMO unless you're really running at a competitive level, you can take ANY brand of shock and make it work more then good enough for what 99.9% of the people out there think they want. Are there differences? Technically, sure... In the real world building a truck to go out on the weekends and have fun, do they matter? IMO, nope, not one bit...