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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:17 PM   #22066
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too much offset.

would you like me to get into the nuances of AMC parts bin engineering to explain this?
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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:20 PM   #22067
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You know we would Marn. Lets hear it!
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My issue was I couldn't get the balls centered. I had to use some extra force to get everything lined up right. It didn't take me long.


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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:35 PM   #22068
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Nice that sucks
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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #22069
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hahahahah, okay guys, get this.


What do you get when you add 16.5 hours of driving, 775 miles, $115 in gas, and $400 in parts?
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Unread 02-27-2013, 12:57 PM   #22070
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So I'm changing out every switch and outlet in my house to paddle stuff and tamper resistant outlets......and the last outlet bites me!!!! WTH?? Seriously whoever thought flathead fasteners was a good idea sucks!!! Phillips FTW!!
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:01 PM   #22071
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So I'm changing out every switch and outlet in my house to paddle stuff and tamper resistant outlets......and the last outlet bites me!!!! WTH?? Seriously whoever thought flathead fasteners was a good idea sucks!!! Phillips FTW!!
That sucks. How did that happen?
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:18 PM   #22072
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Good thing that you have 9 more of those things just hanging around. Those stamped steel edges are nice and sharp.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:20 PM   #22073
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I bet that Hurt like hell.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:49 PM   #22074
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Hey Khris, how hard would it be to make a wrap around rear bumper on a XJ? Something made of 2x4 or 2x6 steel, strong enough to act as a rock slider.

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Somewhere between easy and impossible depending what you wanted to do and how crazy you wanted to get. Could be as simple as notching or pie cutting a section out and pounding it around till it meets up and weld it. If you show me a picture of what you're thinking I can probably get you a better idea/answer but with just that info it's hard for me to say anything.




Andy, no clue on the RCD gig... I need to give him a ring sometime and find out.
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:50 PM   #22075
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So I'm changing out every switch and outlet in my house to paddle stuff and tamper resistant outlets......and the last outlet bites me!!!! WTH?? Seriously whoever thought flathead fasteners was a good idea sucks!!! Phillips FTW!!
LOL, straight slot got a little crazy and stabbed you eh? I HATE when that happens!!!
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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:57 PM   #22076
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Somewhere between easy and impossible depending what you wanted to do and how crazy you wanted to get. Could be as simple as notching or pie cutting a section out and pounding it around till it meets up and weld it. If you show me a picture of what you're thinking I can probably get you a better idea/answer but with just that info it's hard for me to say anything.

Andy, no clue on the RCD gig... I need to give him a ring sometime and find out.
I sent you an email with the link to the thread here on JF with something like what i want.

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Unread 02-27-2013, 01:58 PM   #22077
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Ouch, that looks painful.
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Well it ain't just the smoke and the traffic jam that makes me the bitter fool I am But this four-wheel buggy is A-dollaring me to death.
For gas and oils and fluids and grease, And wires and tires and anti freeze....And them accessories, Well honey, that's something else!
Well I figured it up and over a period of time, This four thousand dollar car of mine, Cost fourteen thousand dollars And ninety-nine cents, well now!
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Unread 02-27-2013, 02:13 PM   #22078
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Okay, here's the rundown.

There are 3 axles out there for this year range.

All Wide Track Cherokees got the same axles. (Dana 20 or Q-Trac didn't matter)
All J trucks got the same axles. (Dana 20 or Q-Trac didn't matter)
All Narrow Track Wagoneers/Cherokees got axles based on transfer case option.

the wide track cherokees used a rear Dana 44 that split the difference between the "centered" (still slightly offset) D44 on D20 rigs and the very offset D44 from Narrow Track Q-Trac wags/cheros

The j trucks have a longer wheel base so the difference is not an issue.

To further that, I will quote somebody from IFSJA

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That is an easy question, (if your mesurements are correct)

The WT (Cherokee) axle shares the same Left side axle lenght as a NT QT axle, and shares the same Right side axle lenght as a NT D-20 axle.

Plugging in the numbers
For the WT axle:
61/2 + 5" for left side = 35.5" Left side (to center of yoke)
61/2 - 5" for right side = 25.5" Right side
For the NT axle
59/2 +3.5 " For left = 33.0" left
59/2 -3.5 for right = 26.0"

(Note: something is off by 0.5" as the NT (D-20) right should = WT (all) right side
as they share the same axle part #)
But plugging along, (assuming correct measurements)
A NT QT will have a 59 - 35.5 right side lenght = 23.5"
or an offset of 6"

(Pretty sure my WT Cherokee is closer to 4.5" offset and QT NT are closer to 6.5" offset, but
either way the NT QT rigs have a pretty good offset)

So, issue is that I will likely run into problems because I am using the furthest offset axle.

-I cannot run WT axles under my truck because they will not fit with my tire/lift combo.

- I cannot regear my rear axle and run the D440 front because then I'd have 5 lug in the back and 6 lug up front.

- I cannot simply swap to ford F-150 outers up front because then i would have to regear my rear, and still run 5 lug wheels all around.

- I can theoretically re-drill my hubs in the back to run 6 lug, and regear my current rear axle.

- I can try to find an axle out of a 74-78 narrow track wag or chero with the tow package gearing.

- I can POSSIBLY run a Dana 18 rather than a dana 20. Waiting to confirm this. In that situation, i could swap the D18 guts into my D20 case, or i could run the stock D18 twin stick. I'd get twin stick and 2.46:1 low range rather than 2:1 low, so there may be an advantage there if it'll bolt up (concerned with bore size)
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Well it ain't just the smoke and the traffic jam that makes me the bitter fool I am But this four-wheel buggy is A-dollaring me to death.
For gas and oils and fluids and grease, And wires and tires and anti freeze....And them accessories, Well honey, that's something else!
Well I figured it up and over a period of time, This four thousand dollar car of mine, Cost fourteen thousand dollars And ninety-nine cents, well now!
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Unread 02-27-2013, 02:31 PM   #22079
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I sent you an email with the link to the thread here on JF with something like what i want.

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email to what address? And was it sent recently?
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Unread 02-27-2013, 02:34 PM   #22080
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email to what address? And was it sent recently?
A hotmail email.

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