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post #18811 of 41897 Old 12-13-2012, 02:28 PM
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Thanks everyone, heard about Best but was worried about it being ghetto


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X2 for Best Muffler.. good folks.


Anyone have a fantastic transmission shop that would give a good deal to a poor starving college student that is having clutch problems on a '94 YJ?
I had my turbo400 rebuilt at Baca's National Transmission, they also did the tranny in my ranger 3 weeks ago. They are the 2nd cheapest quotes I've ever gotten.

the cheapest I've received came from Desert Transmission, but I never went there.

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post #18813 of 41897 Old 12-13-2012, 02:54 PM
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I hear the folks on jeep forum are pretty good. Clutch problems like it needs replaced or is it kicking out of gear or something?
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I think people are kinda sorta hinting that depending what the problem is they'd possibly help him fix it himself... What's it doing?

Sorry, not volunteering, my garage is still full with 2 projects waiting to fill it as soon as it's current occupant is finished. If it just needs a clutch replaced though, that's a pretty easy day job for two people with a set of hand tools, a floor jack and some jack stands. I've got a trans jack if needed to borrow...

My uncle also happens to be the trans specialist at chapman jeep and he's always doing stuff on the side. I've pushed a couple different people his way. What's actually the problem? I'll see if he's interested... He's been doing it for 25+ years.
First and foremost, no apology necessary for not volunteering; dude, you have busted your butt enough to help us all out & we appreciate it, but you need some down time and your current projects aren't giving you much of that either.

He said there was no pressure on the pedal when he attempts to engage the clutch. Then he drove it three miles to get home by slamming it into gear . Through my brilliant online research, I am guessing the master cylinder was/is leaking, needed to be bled, or other similar issues but with the additional abuse he may have caused more damage to the synchromesh or something. But without looking at it, and not really knowing what to look at/for I am not much help. His schedule and mine are way far apart right now. I know people would help if they knew what the problem is, but asking people to commit to the time to explore/troubleshoot and then more time to actually help fix this close to the holidays is a bit of a tall order.
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post #18814 of 41897 Old 12-13-2012, 03:10 PM
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What year is the YJ? I know my old CJ ran linkage, when did they move to hydraulic clutches? On our old CJ there was a rod that occasionally would fall out as it was just held in by tension.

If hydraulic, simply try bleeding it. $20 vacuum bleeder from harbor freight might be all that's needed. If it needs a master replaced, that's pretty simple too. Slave, if leaking and if external would be a simple replacement also.

As for the inside stuff, hard to know really till you have the clutch working again I would think.

At least that's where I'd start if it were me...


I think I'm booked up till mid summer at this point!!! LOL Ugh!!!

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I'm guessing he either had a massive leak and has no fluid left or there is no clutch material left. It would be ALOT cheaper for him to find out what the problem is before taking it to a shop. I'm willing to help out if he is interested. I'm actually still in the process of replacing my little bros clutch but will hopefully finish tonight. Let me know.
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post #18816 of 41897 Old 12-13-2012, 03:24 PM
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Khris beat me. I think it is hydraulic. Depending on how roughly he was slamming it into gear and how close he was in engine/road speed when he was shifting it may be needed to drain the trans oil and check for metal. But I doubt he caused any real damage.
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Jeep is a 94 6CYL 5Speed YJ with the clutch replaced within the last 3K miles or so.

Keep in mind that I am sharing all this via second hand info, but from what I have been told, there doesnt seem to be a loss of fluid & an attempt to "bleed" it using the pump method by just taking off the cap and pumping on it for a while didn't seem to help (though I am not sure why it would, but there were a few posts on multiple forums stating that it worked for them).

Thanks for the offer to assist, I will relay to him and if he takes up the offer, I'd like to help out if I can get away too.
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If it has fluid and it isn't bleeding any bubbles could be that the slave cylinder is bad. They are about $40. It can't be anything too complicated because the system really isn't all that complicated.
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Jeep is a 94 6CYL 5Speed YJ with the clutch replaced within the last 3K miles or so.

Keep in mind that I am sharing all this via second hand info, but from what I have been told, there doesnt seem to be a loss of fluid & an attempt to "bleed" it using the pump method by just taking off the cap and pumping on it for a while didn't seem to help (though I am not sure why it would, but there were a few posts on multiple forums stating that it worked for them).

Thanks for the offer to assist, I will relay to him and if he takes up the offer, I'd like to help out if I can get away too.
Is he just opening the bleeder on the slave? because it needs to be blead similarly to brakes. You can put a hose over the bleeder, open it up with the end in a bottle of fluid (just so it can't suck up more air). Clutch systems are a pain to bleed. My prelude would do this occasionally.

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Hello,
Im new to the forums, and am the kid B0nez was talking about. I bled the clutch by taking the cap off of the master cylinder and pumping the clutch peddle over 100 times. There were bubbles in the fluid, but pressure never built up in the peddle. I replaced the clutch and throwout bearing within the last 3k miles. Jeep is currently undrivable, and is my daily driver. when started there is a high pitched squeal/ grind noise (sounded like that last time throwout bearing went bad) thats about all I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
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Hello,
Im new to the forums, and am the kid B0nez was talking about. I bled the clutch by taking the cap off of the master cylinder and pumping the clutch peddle over 100 times. There were bubbles in the fluid, but pressure never built up in the peddle. I replaced the clutch and throwout bearing within the last 3k miles. Jeep is currently undrivable, and is my daily driver. when started there is a high pitched squeal/ grind noise (sounded like that last time throwout bearing went bad) thats about all I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time.
Mike
If you had bubbles coming out when you bled it you got a leak somewhere. I'm guessing slave cylinder needs replaced. When I get to a computer after work ill do some looking around and see what I can find for you.
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post #18822 of 41897 Old 12-13-2012, 05:25 PM
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If you had bubbles coming out when you bled it you got a leak somewhere. I'm guessing slave cylinder needs replaced. When I get to a computer after work ill do some looking around and see what I can find for you.
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Start super super simple... Is the slave cylinder down on the transmission external? Like can you actually see it? If so, crawl under and have someone push on the clutch while you're looking at the slave. Does the rod move? If not, that narrows it down to your master cylinder, your clutch line or your slave. If the slave is internal in the bell housing, look around and see if there any type of inspection plug or window that you can get a view inside the bellhousing without actually pulling. Basically try to get your eyes on the slave and see if it's moving.

My guess is it's not going to be moving. The squeeling noise is interesting though.

Now if it is moving, then you need to figure out if it's moving enough. I'd hit up the YJ section and simply ask how much throw that shaft should have... If it all checks out, transmission is coming out next cause there's a throwout or clutch itself issue.

That squeeling noise keeps me wondering though, if it was a recent job, could the clips or whatever that hold the throwout bearing in place possibly have come loose, maybe just one side?

Talking out loud there for others to run with...

The fact you've got bubbles though makes me think it's something slave/master/line related. Your method of bleeding it RARELY works. I'd try to get your hands on a vacuum bleeder. They're cheap at harbor freight or if you have a ride to 95 & trop area of town I'd let you borrow mine. Harbor freight is probably closer though and I don't think they're more then $20 for a hand pump one. That would be my very first thing to do on the system if the rod isn't moving. Make 100% sure it's bled with no air in the system. If it still doesn't work, look for visual signs of leaking. If nothing there... Then it's likely your slave cylinder. Could be master but like said above, I'd lean to the slave as well...

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post #18825 of 41897 Old 12-13-2012, 06:09 PM
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Anyone know what the legalities are with dealers advertising a price online and then having the actual price nearly double the advertised price?

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