BTW, Marn, I finally remembered to look last night. I've got about 3 feet of 2"x3" rectangular tubing and I should have quite a bit of 2" square male hitch receiver stock there too. So hopefully between that stuff we'll have enough to do whatever we figure out tomorrow. If not at the very least we can get a game plan and materials list so that we can knock it out another day sometime soon! Unfortunately none of the steel shops are open on weekends anymore unless things have changed...