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Unread 09-04-2012, 05:10 PM   #15586
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however, it seems as though something like that could break or bust off of the part of the frame it was mounted to? I guess thats where the reinforcement would come in.

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Unread 09-04-2012, 05:30 PM   #15587
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Done. Took all damn day.
Not desert camo, but looks great nonetheless!
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Unread 09-04-2012, 05:34 PM   #15588
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Like I said, this weekend was a tease. False advertising at it's best! I somehow got lucky and picked the nicest non mosquito weather possible for the area. Oh, another thing I noticed... Inbred hillbilly looking people there seem to be able to land some smoking hot chicks!!! Seems like the less you care about your physical appearance the harder the chick will work her butt off to look smoking hot for you!
I call BS if there aren't pics to prove it.
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Unread 09-04-2012, 05:37 PM   #15589
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Trailer worked awesome this weekend in St. George! My wife and pups we're pleased with having a refuge. I will now be adding exterior lighting, speakers for tunes, some solar panels, and some other goodies!
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Unread 09-04-2012, 05:47 PM   #15590
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Trailer worked awesome this weekend in St. George! My wife and pups we're pleased with having a refuge. I will now be adding exterior lighting, speakers for tunes, some solar panels, and some other goodies!
you're running that axle-less suspension right? How did you like everything about it?

As seen above, i'm stuck on how to proceed with lift.

i figure with the axleless setup i could literally just put stock between the arm and the frame, same idea as lowering the torsion axle, but there would be no axle between it (unless i added a bar to support it)
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Unread 09-04-2012, 05:56 PM   #15591
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you're running that axle-less suspension right? How did you like everything about it?

As seen above, i'm stuck on how to proceed with lift.

i figure with the axleless setup i could literally just put stock between the arm and the frame, same idea as lowering the torsion axle, but there would be no axle between it (unless i added a bar to support it)
Yep, Timbren 3500lb w/brakes. I do have a brace welded between mine. I love it! None of the bouncy crap most 2 wheel trailers have and zero sway. I also use a 50deg. offroad coupler instead of a regular ball hitch. Makes it a lot harder to steal and let's the trailer move more independent of the tow vehicle.

I'm totally not into pulling a trailer down a trail I'm trying to wheel which is why I stuck with the stock Jeep wheel/tire combo and going fully enclosed over the pop-up style.
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Unread 09-04-2012, 06:26 PM   #15592
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Done. Took all damn day.
Looks good!
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Unread 09-04-2012, 06:33 PM   #15593
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BTW, extra points to anyone that can point out the really stupid "oops" in this picture!!! LOL And no, it's not my technical engineering drawings on the floor in sharpie!
rh rear corner to center top pipe not to the corner, just in front of it?
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Unread 09-04-2012, 06:51 PM   #15594
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Marn, this one is on mojave right in front of the come plant!

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and yeah, i saw that when it was posted before. looks like it could be a good project.
Even better, the wag needs a younger sibling
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Comes with new rear quater panels still in the box? Really?
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Unread 09-04-2012, 06:58 PM   #15595
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Yep, Timbren 3500lb w/brakes. I do have a brace welded between mine. I love it! None of the bouncy crap most 2 wheel trailers have and zero sway. I also use a 50deg. offroad coupler instead of a regular ball hitch. Makes it a lot harder to steal and let's the trailer move more independent of the tow vehicle.

I'm totally not into pulling a trailer down a trail I'm trying to wheel which is why I stuck with the stock Jeep wheel/tire combo and going fully enclosed over the pop-up style.
the 2000 pounders may be the way to go for me....but i still need a lil lift. maybe just spacing them a little further away from the frame and adding normal tires will work.

I'm not worried about brakes and not worried much about trail ability, more just about getting it level so my departure and approach angles arent horrible without going to a drop hitch.
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Unread 09-04-2012, 07:05 PM   #15596
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^-----that there's H3 forum talk!!! Lol
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Unread 09-04-2012, 08:09 PM   #15598
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Anyone planning a trail or shoot this weekend?
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Unread 09-04-2012, 09:03 PM   #15599
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Marn, I say don't trip over it too much. Next time it's conveinent to bring the trailer to your house let me know and I'll swing by to check it out in person. None of the ideas you've floated really sound all that hard to be honest. I think me seeing it in person to really see what we're working with along with your ideas will give us something to figure out. I'm 99% sure I'm following you on all of them but sometimes just seeing it helps pop up something even easier or more affective. I'm sure we can knock something out over the next couple weekends one morning or whatever depending on your schedule. I'm going to pass on the highlift experiment though! I already dislike those things a ton and really don't want my obituary to involve one! LOL I've got a few jack stands and there's a good chance the truck will be back on all 4 tires this weekend so I'll even have my 2 big ones...



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rh rear corner to center top pipe not to the corner, just in front of it?
LOL no it's even more simple then that... It involves about an inch of clearance between the tubes on the back wall and the back wall itself. And then notice a specific cord and how it ended up routed... The end not attached to the light is attached to one of those spring loaded wind up reel things mounted to the roof in my garage! LOL
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Unread 09-04-2012, 10:35 PM   #15600
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K, so heres what i just figured out. appareltly all these axle kits I see have a set width for the spring mounts.

The axle kits are all 46" spring center with 57" to the hub face.

The frame wings that come down (where there would be material to mount the spring hangars) are 51" which is too wide obviously.

Could we nod do something like this?

Black is the existing frame.

blue would need to be added....to create the mounting points for the spring hangars, and green would be the springs/axles.

the springs are 25" eye to eye, though...hmm....

i dunno, you got me excited with those pictures above.

i think i just ought to stick with giving it the cheapest boost possible right now, without having to modify the dang frame.
What is your width hub face to hub face now? It might be easier and quicker to to chop off the spring mounts and weld them back on so they line up with the frame. That would also give you the option of going with different, longer springs later if you so chose. As your design sits, anything changed would have to be removed to make changes later. On the other hand, if you are planning on changing to different wheels, your idea holds more merit as moving the spring perches out could cause problems with back spacing. I am also not sure how moving the spring perches would make the trailer ride over rougher terrain. I could see how it would make the trailer more stable but at the same time, I could see how it would make it bounce more. Why do I suddenly envision this going full tube frame, coilovers, and an exo-cage?
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