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post #46 of 111 Old 02-28-2012, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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Best and strongest bumpstops you can get are hockey pucks. You can stack them at 1" intervals. I ran them on my XJ with about 8" of lift and my TJ with 5" of lift. I drill a hole down the middle and run a bolt through them. I countersink the top one so the bolt head sits below the surface of the puck. The WJ's on the front are perfect for them since the bumpstop plate is outside of the coil springs. Drill a hole in the plate, stack your pucks to the desired height and then run the correct lenght bolt all the way through. My pucks are drilled, the plate is drilled and they will be going on this weekend. Spent about $4 on hardware and another $8 on the 8 pucks. (4" per side=4 pucks per side).


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post #47 of 111 Old 02-28-2012, 11:04 AM
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Best and strongest bumpstops you can get are hockey pucks. You can stack them at 1" intervals. I ran them on my XJ with about 8" of lift and my TJ with 5" of lift. I drill a hole down the middle and run a bolt through them. I countersink the top one so the bolt head sits below the surface of the puck. The WJ's on the front are perfect for them since the bumpstop plate is outside of the coil springs. Drill a hole in the plate, stack your pucks to the desired height and then run the correct lenght bolt all the way through. My pucks are drilled, the plate is drilled and they will be going on this weekend. Spent about $4 on hardware and another $8 on the 8 pucks. (4" per side=4 pucks per side).
That's a great idea, and inexpensve
What about the rears? Do you have any pics?
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post #48 of 111 Old 02-28-2012, 11:08 AM Thread Starter
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That's a great idea, and inexpensve
What about the rears? Do you have any pics?
Havn't done the rears yet, but they should work the same, but will be inside the coil spring. I'm waiting to install my rear TAG bumper, then I can install my KOR 3/4" spacers and bumpstops at the same time. Should all be getting done in the next week or two.

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post #49 of 111 Old 02-28-2012, 11:25 AM
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so i think the most cost effective solution will be hocky puck bump stops
im deffintly gonna give this a shot

hey BHicks, if and when you get a chance, can you post some pics? please, im pretty sure im understanding correctly on the install but would apreciate some pics. thanks.

thanks for the pics Phantom
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post #50 of 111 Old 02-28-2012, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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I will definately post up some pics. I did the same thing to my last two Jeeps. when I get home from work tonight I will try to dig up an old pic of what they look like. If I can't find any, I should have my current ones in real soon. You can look at Phantoms pics and get an idea of what will be done. Just substitute the 2x4 tubing with pucks. Same basic thing. Both approaches are plenty strong and inexpensive. My approach doesn't require welding, but the welding approach instead of the single bolt through the middle is probably a little stronger.

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Present- 2002 WJ Overland, 242HD(going in soon) 4.5" Teraflex/JKS lift, JCR Sliders, TAG bumpers, 33" Muds, 17" JK Moabs ( Future- 2012 JK Rubicon)
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post #51 of 111 Old 02-28-2012, 01:59 PM
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Do you use plain ol normal pucks or the "soft" puck? I'm looking for em right now on amazon and found some that advertise to be softer.
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post #52 of 111 Old 02-28-2012, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
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Do you use plain ol normal pucks or the "soft" puck? I'm looking for em right now on amazon and found some that advertise to be softer.
I used the standard regulation black pucks. Picked them up for just over $1 a piece. I originally bought a bag of 30 used pucks on ebay for $25. I used some on my TJ, some on my XJ, and the left overs were given to some other XJ guys. I should have kept them for my WJ. Remember you dont need the pucks to compress. Originally the bumpstop hits the metal plate at the top of the axle tube which means zero compression. The original factory bump stop up top (rubber gromet thing) is still used with the hockey pucks and thats what gives you the compression. It basically will act exactly how the factory set up acted.

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Present- 2002 WJ Overland, 242HD(going in soon) 4.5" Teraflex/JKS lift, JCR Sliders, TAG bumpers, 33" Muds, 17" JK Moabs ( Future- 2012 JK Rubicon)
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post #53 of 111 Old 03-01-2012, 06:01 PM
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HaHa lucky me. Wife was bored and asked if we could go offroading. Cleghorn here I come!
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post #54 of 111 Old 03-01-2012, 11:36 PM
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HaHa lucky me. Wife was bored and asked if we could go offroading. Cleghorn here I come!
how was cleghorn?
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post #55 of 111 Old 03-02-2012, 01:34 AM
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Fun as hell. First time night wheeling for me. I need to add some auxiliary lights. Good time overall. Gonna have to thank my kids for bugging my wife that they wanted to go. I didn't even have to bring it up.
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post #56 of 111 Old 03-02-2012, 08:29 AM Thread Starter
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Fun as hell. First time night wheeling for me. I need to add some auxiliary lights. Good time overall. Gonna have to thank my kids for bugging my wife that they wanted to go. I didn't even have to bring it up.
I have ran a few trails in Big Bear in the night and it was a blast. The only trail I ran at night and was puckered the hole time was the rubicon. We had a breakdown on the trail a couple hours from camp and by the time we got the rig back on the trail it was dark, so the last few hours of the first day were in total darkness. It was terrifying only being able to see what was right in front of you. Picking lines was a nightmare. One of the guys that went with us that had run the rubicon a couple times prior stated "you probably wouldn't have done that if you could see how much of a drop off that is". There was a section that you had to be WAY off camber to your left going over this rock and to your left was this black abyss that you couldn't see the bottom. The next morning he pointed out a spot up canyon on the edge of this drop off where we were leaning over. I guess the darkness was a good thing in that case. We are definately gonna have to put together a socal WJ Rubicon run.

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post #57 of 111 Old 03-02-2012, 11:58 AM
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I'm so down for the rubicon!! I'd imagine I need to be locked, but so long as I got people to pull me I'm willing to give it a try.
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I'm so down for the rubicon!! I'd imagine I need to be locked, but so long as I got people to pull me I'm willing to give it a try.

I was locked front and rear on 35's so the trail wasn't too bad, but another guy in the group ran it on 33's open front and rear and made it through. He needed a few tugs but made it. Another guy was on 31's locked front and rear and made it, but he needed LOTS of tugs and winching.

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I definately want to run the rubicon again and would love to do it in a WJ, but this summer my wife will be having our 2nd son so I will be a tad busy with that. My WJ probably wont be rubicon ready at that point anyways. Next summer I plan to have some long arms, rear locker, 4.56 gears, beefed up steering, and a trussed rear 44a. At that point I will be confident to run the trail. So I'm looking at about 16-18 months before I will be doing that trip. I really need that amount of time to save funds for the trip and final upgrades.

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Present- 2002 WJ Overland, 242HD(going in soon) 4.5" Teraflex/JKS lift, JCR Sliders, TAG bumpers, 33" Muds, 17" JK Moabs ( Future- 2012 JK Rubicon)
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post #60 of 111 Old 03-02-2012, 02:36 PM
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Im game too...

Trevino: Are you running open diff on both ends?
I got the varilok axles and they've held up extremely well for being on 33's. I know some people say once they jump up in tire size its useless but I've wheeled with locked tj's and yj's and they all think I'm locked. I don't plan to do lockers till I swap axles. Currently saving for 4.56 gears and hopefully pick up some 35's. My 44a already has the mvc truss so I trust that. I wanna do otk in the front. I've hit my tie rod a few times already. I'm worried about breaking it.
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