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post #3871 of 4591 Old 08-20-2013, 07:34 PM
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Yeah its pretty close, but the ZJ is still a bit bigger.

I've already rebuilt the 4.0, so stroking it will be like throwing away $2000.
And other power mods like 703 injectors, bitter intakes, etc, don't yield much, maybe 10 or 15 HP at the most (combined). Sticking a turbo on it is something i would like to do but the MPG loss would kill my wallet long term. Its called the 4.Slow for a reason lol.

Think of it this way, If i would sell my XJ for 6000-6500, and if i found a nice V8 ZJ for 2000-4000, ill have a few thousand left over for mods and a motorcycle. And mods for me wouldn't be much because i usually build my own stuff whenever i can.


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post #3872 of 4591 Old 08-20-2013, 09:40 PM
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I'd keep the XJ. Magnum motors have head cracking issues, poor mpg for the most part and the transmissions avail are eh. There def not a bad setup by any means but to get a zj and do everything over again would just be work repeating itself. A WJ with a 4.7 is a good choice. Get some suspension seats.... Swap in 4 bucket seats. a 4.0 and aw4 should net very good power to the ground. What gears and tire size are you at now? My dads 2001 XJ is fast and very comfy.

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post #3873 of 4591 Old 08-20-2013, 10:09 PM
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33" tires with 4.11 gears. Its alright for driving around, but it really sucks when im going up into the mountains with 1000 pounds of camping gear and human flesh. need to pull 5000RPM to keep up with traffic. I usually find myself going slower than 18 wheelers, and even that makes the motor really hot. plus the WJ/ZJ weighs more than the XJ so a similar setup might not be any better if i stay away from V8s

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post #3874 of 4591 Old 08-20-2013, 11:27 PM
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4.56s....... Do a thermometer check on your cats. My dads 2001 xj flies up the mountain. Loaded down with parts and tools.

Just make sure your not chasing me up the mountain lol. Oooor have me behind you.... Lol. I can drive that thing blind folded so intend to roll pretty fast....

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post #3875 of 4591 Old 08-20-2013, 11:47 PM
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4.56s....... Do a thermometer check on your cats. My dads 2001 xj flies up the mountain. Loaded down with parts and tools.

Just make sure your not chasing me up the mountain lol. Oooor have me behind you.... Lol. I can drive that thing blind folded so intend to roll pretty fast....
Thermometer checking the cats?? Interested in that.. (And I mean the catalytic converters ) I have an infrared scanner... What are the perameters for checking that? Operating temp? And what should it read?

There's been a few times when doing loooong uphill drives through mountains my rig feels like it gets slower. It's already slow as balls but i can be doing fine in 4th for a while, the same incline a few miles later I'm pinned in 3rd and struggling. Could be an issue regarding this..
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post #3876 of 4591 Old 08-20-2013, 11:55 PM
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Thermometer checking the cats?? Interested in that.. (And I mean the catalytic converters ) I have an infrared scanner... What are the perameters for checking that? Operating temp? And what should it read?

There's been a few times when doing loooong uphill drives through mountains my rig feels like it gets slower. It's already slow as balls but i can be doing fine in 4th for a while, the same incline a few miles later I'm pinned in 3rd and struggling. Could be an issue regarding this..
It should be hotter after the cat if I remember correctly.
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post #3877 of 4591 Old 08-21-2013, 12:03 AM
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There's a temp range they should be at. I use my temp gun too. If they are way hot past the operating range in means there clogged. I forget the range. But I know the precats are crazy hot.

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post #3878 of 4591 Old 08-21-2013, 07:48 AM
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The wjs with the 4.slow are even more of a dog bc they are heavier. I think something is either clogged in your exhaust or you just need 456 gears. I broke my cat wheeling it makes a huge difference when its clogged felt like I was dragging an anchor.

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post #3879 of 4591 Old 08-21-2013, 05:20 PM
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Well if you decide to build a zj, my short arms are about to go up for sale.

1995 Grand Cherokee Laredo, V8, 242 T-case swap, custom driveshafts, bumpers/rock sliders, X20 8000# winch, Rough country long arm kit w/5.5" rustys springs, full Detroit rear locker, HP D30/trutrack, 4:11 gears 32x11.5x15 Maxxis MT's
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post #3880 of 4591 Old 08-21-2013, 05:21 PM
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There's a really clean 01' GC for sale in my neighborhood for $6500. Not going to get you a bike though.

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post #3881 of 4591 Old 08-21-2013, 05:26 PM
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post #3882 of 4591 Old 08-21-2013, 06:57 PM
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Updated my build thread with a bunch of new pics if anyone cares.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/9...18/index2.html

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post #3883 of 4591 Old 08-21-2013, 08:56 PM
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post #3884 of 4591 Old 08-22-2013, 01:20 AM
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Lol, thanks TJ. I got off work at 11 and had the exhaust cut and mocked up by midnight. A little welding tomorrow and she'll be ready to drive!

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post #3885 of 4591 Old 08-22-2013, 07:19 AM
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thanks for the offer but i want to go straight to long arms with this one.

I was thinking about getting one of those older bikes. something simple and cheap.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/96-xj-build-hybrid-1311863/

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