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Unread 01-16-2013, 09:07 AM   #1
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Question for the fellows here - rescue initiative

We're a bunch of Jeepers who think of establishing a profit-based offroad rescue & assistance company in a few California zones (at least now...).
Our goal is to help others who got stuck out there, by either pulling them out and/or by fixing their vehicles.

It's very important for us to get an initial feedback from you members - do you think there's business justification to such a service?
We'd appreciate sincere feedbacks.. thanks a lot all responders!

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Unread 01-16-2013, 12:38 PM   #2
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We're a bunch of Jeepers who think of establishing a profit-based offroad rescue & assistance company in a few California zones (at least now...).
Our goal is to help others who got stuck out there, by either pulling them out and/or by fixing their vehicles.

It's very important for us to get an initial feedback from you members - do you think there's business justification to such a service?
We'd appreciate sincere feedbacks.. thanks a lot all responders!
We go out of our way to help stranded and stuck Jeepers. FREE of charge. It's what we do, it's who we are. No one gets left behind.

Good luck on your business venture.
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Unread 01-16-2013, 09:04 PM   #3
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We go out of our way to help stranded and stuck Jeepers. FREE of charge. It's what we do, it's who we are. No one gets left behind.

Good luck on your business venture.
Agreed 110%
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Unread 01-17-2013, 01:21 PM   #4
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#1 rule of Desert off roading and exploration is help those in need cause you may never know when you will need it yourself. Doing the same thing for profit is just plain selfish and in my opinion WRONG.
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Unread 01-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #5
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Maybe not so much for jeeps, or other off road enthusiast but there is a need for off road recovery in a lot of areas. Lots of ill equipped motorist venture out in places they shouldn't be and get stuck, or break down. AAA doesn't cover off road recovery, and most tow companies don't want to risk damage to their trucks.

One problem your gonna have is if one of us get there before you do, we'll pull them out for nothing.

Another thing to consider is the cost of commercial insurance for such a business. It's a must have because of the liability, and it'll be very expensive.
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Unread 01-17-2013, 01:51 PM   #6
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Another thing to consider is the cost of commercial insurance for such a business. It's a must have because of the liability, and it'll be very expensive.
even doing it for profit it may not cover the insurance lol. theres a reason there are no, or very few, companies that specialize in offroad rescue
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even doing it for profit it may not cover the insurance lol. theres a reason there are no, or very few, companies that specialize in offroad rescue
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Maybe not so much for jeeps, or other off road enthusiast but there is a need for off road recovery in a lot of areas. Lots of ill equipped motorist venture out in places they shouldn't be and get stuck, or break down. AAA doesn't cover off road recovery, and most tow companies don't want to risk damage to their trucks.

One problem your gonna have is if one of us get there before you do, we'll pull them out for nothing.

Another thing to consider is the cost of commercial insurance for such a business. It's a must have because of the liability, and it'll be very expensive.
Thank you very much for the educating feedback.
What do you mean by ill equipped motorist?
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Unread 01-17-2013, 03:13 PM   #9
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Thank you very much for the educating feedback.
What do you mean by ill equipped motorist?
People without off road tires, no winch, no recovery hardware
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Unread 01-17-2013, 06:24 PM   #10
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Thank you very much for the educating feedback.
What do you mean by ill equipped motorist?
Mostly people in stock, 2 wheel drive vehicles, no winch, street tires, etc.
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Unread 01-18-2013, 05:01 AM   #11
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I'm sure there is a market for such a service but you have to ask how big of a market and is that market even profitable? And I agree with most of the others, if I roll up on someone who needs help, i'll help, for free.
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Unread 01-18-2013, 12:19 PM   #12
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I'm sure there is a market for such a service but you have to ask how big of a market and is that market even profitable? And I agree with most of the others, if I roll up on someone who needs help, i'll help, for free.
Isn't it known as "paying it forward"? Just saying.
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Unread 01-18-2013, 12:37 PM   #13
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Speaking of "rescue"...

My February Trip last year, 2012, was a great trip until one of my buds rolled his TJ. He ended up in the hospital although was ok and suffered only a broken nose, his Jeep wasn't so well for the wear. On that trip, we had various wheelers coming up on different days over the entire 4 day trip. One of these wonderful people showed up early the morning after the rollover and after we got my friend handled and safely at the hospital in Ridgecrest. He was ready to rock and roll and hit the trails. I then explained to him what happened and that I wasn't leaving camp until I heard back from my friend's family regarding arrangements for getting his now wrecked Jeep back home, etc. This guy had just shown up, and it seemed like ten minutes later we were showing him the Jeep about a half mile up the canyon. He wasted no time in the assist and we went back a couple hours later with his XJ, my XJ and a few others from the trip. He and I teamed up and used his winch to upright the TJ after temporarily refitting the front axle in place as it had broken LCAs, changed the blown tire for the spare and I steered as he towed me backwards back to camp. Then, once I had made arrangements with the family and they got the truck and trailer of a family friend, this guy helped winch the TJ onto the trailer and he and I strapped her down. He was nothing but professional about it, you just knew he knew what he was doing. He is a perfect example of what I look for in folks who come out on my trips. He is also the guy I want to run into if I ever get into trouble I can't get myself out of. He is a member of this forum but I won't divulge his name/handle without his permission.

Anyway, there was a time when I did in fact get into some trouble in my built Samurai. I was in a canyon here in the Antelope Valley. It took 4WD just to get down this canyon and certainly would need it coming out. I blew out the front most u-joint in the front shaft, shattering the yolk. Dead in the water, I was not able to get over the two waterfalls that lay before me to get back out. I of course hiked a mile or so to get help on my cell. I was there for 4 hours before it was over but, two awesome dudes came all the way down from Mojave in a CJ-7 and a YJ just to help me out. No other reason, they came all that way just because!

That's a good part of what this sport/hobby/fascination we know as off roading is all about. There is an unspoken comradery amongst us all, and personally, not JUST for other Jeepers, but anyone who takes to the dirt.
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Unread 01-18-2013, 04:06 PM   #14
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It's crazy but there are people out there who'll leave people stranded on the trail. We ran across some older folks last year who had broke down half way up Doran Canyon . These people where in their mid 70's. The group they were with just up and left them sitting there. Our group wasn't about to leave them there, we pulled them out.
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It's crazy but there are people out there who'll leave people stranded on the trail. We ran across some older folks last year who had broke down half way up Doran Canyon . These people where in their mid 70's. The group they were with just up and left them sitting there. Our group wasn't about to leave them there, we pulled them out.
I will NEVER leave anyone stranded, not ever! That trip last year required my staying an extra night, alone, after everyone else was handled and headed home. But, that's what it took to be sure all was right. I honestly didn't mind taking one more day off work either lol
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