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Unread 11-09-2009, 05:18 AM   #1
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California Emissions/Vehicle reg rules.

I will be moving to Fort Irwin California in Feb from Germany, I have no idea how strict emissions laws are in California so I figure I better find out now so I can register the heep when I get there.

Here is a little info on my Jeep and why I think I am going to have issues:

My Jeep is an 88 XJ (Renix), however I am in the process of replacing my motor with a HO motor (non Renix) from a 94 xj. There aren't provsions for the egr on the new block, which seems there might be a problem with a smog inpection station.

I don't have alot of time to fart around with this thing before I ship it so I am basically just trying to get it running before I put it on the boat.

Basically I need to know what the emission requirements are and if I should bother messing around with trying to bring my Jeep to California or get it running and sell it to someone in Germany and then start with a newer XJ when I get there.

Any guidance you can give will be appreciated.

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Unread 11-09-2009, 09:07 AM   #2
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California emissions

First off thanks for serving and second welcome back to the states!! The California Emissions Laws are the most re-strictive there is. On yours it will depend on what it is going to be used for (daily driver, off-road use only). On the daily driver if you change the motor to a newer one it will have to meet that years emission standards which could be a problem. Now if you are only going to use it for off road use (trailered to the site) then it won't be much of a problem. But if you are planning to drive it to the site then it will have to be smogged. Hope this helped you a little. Go online to the California DMV and check the smog requirements for your vehicle. puttputt56
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Unread 11-09-2009, 09:33 AM   #3
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Now for your vehicle. Being active duty military you can have your vehicle registered in your home state, and you can keep your drivers license from your home state, that way you don't have to deal with California.

Is your Jeep a US spec. vehicle? Or is it a European spec. vehicle? If its European spec. then Im not sure. It may fall under the "Grey Market" catagory, and thats a Federal issue.

To get a "Grey Market" car in the US I believe you have to put a bond down with the Feds. to ensure you will bring the car up to US spec. You do get the bond back after the car passes. Skip to: Content | Footer | Web Accessibility | Disability Services Search:


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Unread 11-09-2009, 01:15 PM   #4
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Keep it simple.

what is your home of residence??? Register it there.
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Unread 11-09-2009, 09:32 PM   #5
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Thanks for the help, I am From Montana soo I guess it will be too easy.

By the way, I hope to see you all on the trails when I get there and just for your info the Heep is US spec
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Now for your vehicle. Being active duty military you can have your vehicle registered in your home state, and you can keep your drivers license from your home state, that way you don't have to deal with California.
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These are both excellent suggestions, but I've heard recently that many military bases in CA are requiring your out of state registered vehicle pass CA smog. I'd check with base security or whoever issues vehicle passes for that base because it may not be an issue there.

The new engine needs to have all of it's factory emissions equipment. I don't know if the 94 4.0 HO had an EGR, so can't really say for that. Check with the BAR for more info. They have more to say about swaps than the DMV.
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These are both excellent suggestions, but I've heard recently that many military bases in CA are requiring your out of state registered vehicle pass CA smog. I'd check with base security or whoever issues vehicle passes for that base because it may not be an issue there.

The new engine needs to have all of it's factory emissions equipment. I don't know if the 94 4.0 HO had an EGR, so can't really say for that. Check with the BAR for more info. They have more to say about swaps than the DMV.
1991-up 242ci had the EGR system deleted (which isn't a bad thing - I wish I could delete it on my RENIX. Engine runs better and cleaner without it, actually...)

Registering with Home of Record would simplify things, but you'll still have to get insurance in CA (and pay CA rates!) and, as mentioned, you may have to smog as well. However, you may have to smog according to 49-state standard, rather the CA standards, which are looser. Check with base MPs and CARB/CA DMV (the latter two are online) for more information.

The general rule on swaps is that the engine has to be comparable to what was originallly available (since the 242ci was an option from 1987-2001, that won't be a problem,) and has to be the same model year or newer. So, your HO transplant shouldn't be a problem under CA regs - but you should check with a "Smog Referee" when you get here (you'll need to get a signoff from them if you're going to register in CA anyhow, since you've swapped the engine.) However, the swap itself should not be a great problem - if you were going to, say, a Chevvy V8 or something like that, it would be a bigger problem. You'd probably have to register it as a "kit car" or a "custom build," if you could at all (I'm not sure - but I've seen some oddies get registered out here. How about a 1974 Datsun pickup with a 1988 Corvette powertrain? Street legal, so I know it can be done! Saw that one back in 1991.)
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How about a 1974 Datsun pickup with a 1988 Corvette powertrain? Street legal, so I know it can be done! Saw that one back in 1991.)
It's also smog exempt. I don't think he'll have any issues myself.
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Once again, thanks for all of the info. I will get ahold of vehicle reg out at Fort Irwin as soon as I get there. And by the way, we should get together sometime in March and do some wheeling. I have heard that there is some good spots to wheel ou near Calico. Hope to see you all soon.
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Thanks for the help, I am From Montana soo I guess it will be too easy.

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Once again, thanks for all of the info. I will get ahold of vehicle reg out at Fort Irwin as soon as I get there. And by the way, we should get together sometime in March and do some wheeling. I have heard that there is some good spots to wheel ou near Calico. Hope to see you all soon.
Yes, Calico has some trials, although I've never run any of them. JV is also not that far away from Irwin (as far as we here in Cali. look at it... we drive everywhere. ) so I'd guess that'd be your best bet to hook up with some fellow JF'ers.

btw... thanks for your service and hope ya don't have to much culture shock going from Montana, to Germany, to the middle of the Mojave desert.




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I was stationed in Fort Irwin from 2004-2007. I am just comeing back. Culture shock shouldn't be a problem. I am just happy to be coming back to the greatest country in the world.
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It's also smog exempt. I don't think he'll have any issues myself.
It wasn't then - the 30-year rolling exemption hadn't caught up yet (and that's a non-issue anyhow - they fixed it at 1974 in 2004 - so it's not a 30-year rolling anymore. Damn.)
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It wasn't then - the 30-year rolling exemption hadn't caught up yet (and that's a non-issue anyhow - they fixed it at 1974 in 2004 - so it's not a 30-year rolling anymore. Damn.)
Yep, that sucks. When I first moved to CA in '96 I had a '70 Duster the DMV wouldn't let me register until I put CA smog equipment on it. I asked them what equipment exactly I needed they didn't even have a clue. Of course this was at a DMV in San Jose and when I got my license they told me to get a study guide off the table...... an entire 8 ft. long table with literally hundreds of DMV study guides and not a single one in English.

I ended up donating that Duster to Father Joe's Childrens Charity.
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