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Unread 12-15-2007, 05:59 AM   #1
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Help me make an important decision

So Chrysler's bombing, it's time to get out.

If I come over to Boeing in Seattle, is there sufficient hard rockcrawling to do in the area, or should I leave my Jeep here? Being in MI, I'm used to driving 6 to 8 hours to get anywhere with good terrain, so it's got to be better than that, right?

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Unread 12-15-2007, 08:32 AM   #2
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Unread 12-15-2007, 11:17 AM   #3
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Plenty of crawling around here!!!
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Unread 12-15-2007, 04:37 PM   #4
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Plenty of crawling around here!!!
very few trails in the PNW that cant be done by a bolt on TJ with 35's. Not at all what I consider hardcore. There aren't really any complete trails that would challenge a buggy, mostly just obstacles here and there and a couple of play areas.
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Unread 12-15-2007, 07:46 PM   #5
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I hear what you're saying, I just moved from Ann Arbor this year. The only place I ever took my TJ was The Mounds. With a Mechanical Engineering degree I'm part of the dime-a-dozen crowd, although I moved out here because Ft. Lewis is my first duty station.

But let me get something straight: the existence of places to take your Jeep is going to have a significant factor whether or not you're going to move 2400 miles away, or have you already decided to make the move?
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Unread 12-16-2007, 11:37 AM   #6
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very few trails in the PNW that cant be done by a bolt on TJ with 35's. Not at all what I consider hardcore. There aren't really any complete trails that would challenge a buggy, mostly just obstacles here and there and a couple of play areas.
Have you ever been to Idaho?

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Unread 12-17-2007, 06:19 PM   #7
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Um. . . There are rock crawling areas in WA, sure, but not to the extent of other areas of the country. The trails are fun and entertaining with some great scenery but not "hardcore" such as you see in magazines and such. The eastern side of the mountains is drier with great vistas and scenery that open up on the trails and miles and miles of area to explore. The western side is wetter with dense, lush evergreen forests.

The key to Washington's wheel'n opportunities is "variety," you get a taste of everything here. The benefit is that there are plenty of areas to go wheel'n that are close to Seattle. The following are approximate drive times from downtown Seattle:



Within a 1 hr Drive:

Reiter Trails ORV area
A fun area in the foothills of the Cascade mountains. A few abondon mines dot the wooded area. There are some creek crossings, a tall 700 ft cliff overlook, lots of mud puddles, and some nasty, slick boulder gardens to play in. This place is frequented by custom rock buggies and such. Elevation is pretty low so the chance of snow is remote.

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Walker Valley ORV Park
A little further up north near this is getting to be a fun area. No rock crawling but the trails are entertaining enough for medium-to-full day of wheel'n and it's definitely worth the trip at some point for a change of pace. Like most Western WA trails they get muddy and slick with a mix of logs, rocks, stumps, and puddles to driver over and through.

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Evan's Creek ORV Park
Probably one of the most popular ORV parks in the area this is sited at about 4000 ft of elevation in the foot hills at the base of Mt. Rainier. In fact, you can look right at the side of the 14,400+ ft tall mountain from an overlook on a trail. Trail difficulty goes up in the rainy season (Spring or Fall) with slick mud on everything, it gets easier when its dry (summer) and is virtually shut down in winter under 3-5 ft of snow for all but the insane. Many steep, tight, twisty mountain trails. Dark, lush, desne NW forests cling to the sides of the mountains in the ORV park providing a nice place to Jeep.

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Unread 12-17-2007, 06:21 PM   #8
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Within a 2 hr Drive:

Libery / Table Mountain area
In the Cascade mountain range but on the eastern side. Forests are dry, some of the trails aren't super difficult. . .unless it rains. Then they're slicker 'n snot. Combined with steep climbs and descents it can be difficult. Still learning about the more challenging trails in this area. Definiely an area I want to check out more. About 85 miles from Seattle off I-90. Many places to go camping. And there are some active small-time mining operating still going on.


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Elbe Hills ORV Park
This place is short on trail miles but long on difficulty. Replace rock crawling with stump and root crawling . . . then cover everything in slime. Bingo. If you get bored and bummed about never using your winch, go here. Expect body damage.


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Naches Trail
An easy but fun and historic trail that crosses from western Washington into eastern Washington over the Cascade mountain range entirely by 4x4 Jeep trail. The route follows the historic Longmire wagon train of 1853 that was re-opened by Jeepers on its centenial in 1953 and has been used as a 4x4 Jeep route ever since. Route is open from July to November, closed in the winter due to trecherous snow conditions. It crosses the Pacific Crest Trail (a hiking route from Mexico to Canada) and stops at Government Meadows, the site of the Longmire camp where they prepped for their decent down the cliffs. The trail dumps you into the Naches Basin in Eastern Washington at the southern edge of Manastash Ridge.


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Manastash Ridge
115 square miles of offroading trails and camping right in the middle of a series of ridges on the eastern edge of the Cascade Mountains under gorgeous blue skies. This place is accessible from the north by a brisk 100 mi drive on I-90 or the south via Hwy 410, or from the Naches Trail. Dry fir forests enclose much of the trails but high meadows break out from the trees and there are several stunning vistas. There are a few hidden lakes you can get close to with a short, final hike by foot. Raven's Roost trail tops out at 6300 ft with great views all around.

There are also a couple ROCK CRAWLING areas called Funnyrocks and Moonrocks where you can play at your own risk. (one "trail" is called Can Opener).

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Unread 12-17-2007, 06:23 PM   #9
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Within a 3+ hr Drive:

Rimrock
A big, expansive area that climbs straight up and down the sides of a few ridges in this area 3.5 hours SE of Seattle. From a few key vantage points you can pick off about 3-5 major mountains as well as getting a good look at the rest of the mountain range. Go power boating or jet skiing in Rimrock Lake at the foot of the trails or some easy white water rafting when they release water from the lake at the end of summer.

My club goes on an anual pilgrimage to this place and usually spends about 2 weeks here each year camping and Jeeping.

Did I mention the trails are steep? Make sure you have good brakes.



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Moses Lake Dune area
Never been here but there are about 4 square miles of gravely sand dunes and general Jeep'n. Maybe someday I'll get out there, about 3 hrs from home.


Tillamook State Forest (Oregon)
Sort of close by in Oregon, about 3.5-4 hrs from Seattle. Haven't been here but it's said to have some intense trails.










Oh, and Idaho . . . it's a half day drive away. Leave at 8am and you can be in Idaho by 2pm. It's a 6 hr, 300 mile drive straight across the state. Not sure where the rock crawling is once you cross the state line but it's not "too" far away.


And I hear Moab, UT is a long 2-day drive away, too. . . not "too" far for a vacation.
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Unread 12-17-2007, 06:34 PM   #10
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So Chrysler's bombing, it's time to get out.

If I come over to Boeing in Seattle, is there sufficient hard rockcrawling to do in the area, or should I leave my Jeep here? Being in MI, I'm used to driving 6 to 8 hours to get anywhere with good terrain, so it's got to be better than that, right?

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