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Unread 09-24-2012, 07:39 PM   #76
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Do you have the name and location of the camp grounds you stayed in? Or at least the good ones

Ordered the "Milepost" last night
On some of my posts I gave the name of the campground we stayed in, but otherwise I don't remember the names. And I gave my buddy the travel notebook we had that had the detailed maps. But to be honest, we never stayed in a bad one. Other than the city campground outside of Anchorage (which was nice), they were all pretty much the same (and all nice). Once you get to the campground, you pick out your campsite, and then go to the pay-box and write your campsite number on the envelope, when you're checking in and checking out, and put your money in the envelope, tear off the stub, and put the envelope with your money in the slot.

I'm glad (as will you be) that you ordered the milepost book. Once you get it, start reading it. Figure out what you're wanting to do; where you want to start and end, what you want to see, etc. And then if you'd like, send me a pm with your phone number and a good time to call, and we can talk. I'll try and answer any questions you have. And I can go into much more detail about our trip as you follow along in your book.

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Unread 09-30-2012, 12:08 AM   #78
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Did you think about going up to the Arctic Circle or up to Deadhorse or Inuvik ?

Also, have gotten The "Milepost" a lot of information and opening a whole new can of ideas.
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Unread 09-30-2012, 01:58 PM   #79
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Did you think about going up to the Arctic Circle or up to Deadhorse or Inuvik ?

Also, have gotten The "Milepost" a lot of information and opening a whole new can of ideas.
I'm glad you're enjoying your Milepost book. It's definitely not something you can read through in one sitting.

There were lots of places we would have liked to go to, but we were limited by time (we had three weeks to do it). So we had to make choices. We tried to hit key places, be wise when we stayed at one place for a bit, and cover as much ground as possible. Hopefully when we get to go back we can see some of the places we missed.
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I'm glad you're enjoying your Milepost book. It's definitely not something you can read through in one sitting.

There were lots of places we would have liked to go to, but we were limited by time (we had three weeks to do it). So we had to make choices. We tried to hit key places, be wise when we stayed at one place for a bit, and cover as much ground as possible. Hopefully when we get to go back we can see some of the places we missed.
Thanks, the trip I am planning is for me and a group of friends, I am guessing that we will have about the same amount of time in Canada & Alaska. From what I have read so far and looked at in the Milepost, I see us making choices also, but which ones? Like i want to go the Arctic Circle again, and since I am the planner, I have a inside track on what we see :-), but do we take the time to go to Inuvik or not? Time will tell.
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Thanks, the trip I am planning is for me and a group of friends, I am guessing that we will have about the same amount of time in Canada & Alaska. From what I have read so far and looked at in the Milepost, I see us making choices also, but which ones? Like i want to go the Arctic Circle again, and since I am the planner, I have a inside track on what we see :-), but do we take the time to go to Inuvik or not? Time will tell.
Great advice on getting The Milepost, best single soure of info for this trip. If you're leaving from New Mexico you'll have two less days of what I call "transit stage" time than we did.

Things to consider:

If you're thinking about taking the ferry one way then consider taking it south on the way home instead of north going out. You will have more options if the road washes out or other problems come up. The only thing is having to be at the ferry port on a particular day/time.

Plan your trip based on your slowest rig (or driver), it will save you a lot of stress in the long run (and it is a long run!).

The Arctic Circle isn't that far from Fairbanks but do you really want to go that far and not go to Coldfoot and Deadhorse? We did it in a day and a half BUT it was in a Grand Cherokee running 60-70 all the way. We didn’t do the bus tour to the Arctic Ocean, but that take longer and more planning because of the notice involved.

Camping is cheaper but it takes more time, and you have to haul the gear. Gas is expensive ($.50-1.00 more the Dallas). Hotel rooms run about $100 +/- a night, but many come with breakfast. We took basic camping gear just in case and never used it. We came close to needing it when the road washout problem came up, so it never hurts to be prepared.

If you are going to drive the Dalton, they recommend you take 2 spare tires, fuel, basic spare parts, ect.
Now that I have been there I know why, you are pretty much on your own. It’s 240+ miles from Coldfoot to Prudhoe Bay and very little in the way of vehicle services (read none). If you need it, you better have it with you. A lot of Alaska- Canada is remote and even the “towns” aren’t very big. I will say that everyone we met was friendly and helpful.

The Dalton and the Denali are both mostly gravel of the ball bearing class. It’s a lot of fun to drive on at speed as long as you watch it. The Denali Highway is much more winding and has more blind corners; the Dalton is wide with lots of steep grade changes. Atigun Pass was steep and greasy.

This is just a few things I could think of. If you have any questions feel free

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Unread 10-02-2012, 01:29 AM   #82
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Great advice on getting The Milepost, best single soure of info for this trip. If you're leaving from New Mexico you'll have two less days of what I call "transit stage" time than we did.

Things to consider:

If you're thinking about taking the ferry one way then consider taking it south on the way home instead of north going out. You will have more options if the road washes out or other problems come up. The only thing is having to be at the ferry port on a particular day/time.

Plan your trip based on your slowest rig (or driver), it will save you a lot of stress in the long run (and it is a long run!).

The Arctic Circle isn't that far from Fairbanks but do you really want to go that far and not go to Coldfoot and Deadhorse? We did it in a day and a half BUT it was in a Grand Cherokee running 60-70 all the way. We didn’t do the bus tour to the Arctic Ocean, but that take longer and more planning because of the notice involved.

Camping is cheaper but it takes more time, and you have to haul the gear. Gas is expensive ($.50-1.00 more the Dallas). Hotel rooms run about $100 +/- a night, but many come with breakfast. We took basic camping gear just in case and never used it. We came close to needing it when the road washout problem came up, so it never hurts to be prepared.

If you are going to drive the Dalton, they recommend you take 2 spare tires, fuel, basic spare parts, ect.
Now that I have been there I know why, you are pretty much on your own. It’s 240+ miles from Coldfoot to Prudhoe Bay and very little in the way of vehicle services (read none). If you need it, you better have it with you. A lot of Alaska- Canada is remote and even the “towns” aren’t very big. I will say that everyone we met was friendly and helpful.

The Dalton and the Denali are both mostly gravel of the ball bearing class. It’s a lot of fun to drive on at speed as long as you watch it. The Denali Highway is much more winding and has more blind corners; the Dalton is wide with lots of steep grade changes. Atigun Pass was steep and greasy.

This is just a few things I could think of. If you have any questions feel free

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Thanks

I am guessing right now the ferry is only if needed, so that works with what you said.

The Arctic Circle to me is a must, back in 1980, my Dad, Mom, an Aunt and & I did a trip to Alaska from Chicago in a month old Mercury station wagon, my Dad & I did the side trip to the Arctic Circle and I would like to do it again. Back then, you could only go a little farther north of the Arctic Circle and then the road was closed to most people. I would like to go to Deadhorse, but I see that as being a 4 day round trip from Fairbanks, with overnights in Coldfoot, unless we push it. Now Inuvik, could be done in 3 days with a couple of overnights in Fort McPherson. Time will tell on this.

As for the camping, well one of the other guys going with me, will have his 3 boys and I think that hotels and stuff would get very costly. As of right now, it looks to be 4 vehicles going and anywhere from 8-12 people, but this trip is at least a year off. We do plan to do hotels about every 6th day.

Most of the people coming with me, are coming from Houston. we plan to start this from Durango, CO

I welcome any and all advice I can get.
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Unread 10-02-2012, 01:31 AM   #83
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Another question, the "Milepost" says to expect to only cover 250-300 miles a day, that seems low to me, is that right????
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Unread 10-02-2012, 09:59 AM   #84
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Another question, the "Milepost" says to expect to only cover 250-300 miles a day, that seems low to me, is that right????
That's about what we did. When you factor in stopping in places for a day or two (like Anchorage or Dawson or Whitehorse or Chicken/Eagle...) it about averages out to that. I think there were some days we did between 400 - 500 miles. We checked out a lot of museums on our trip.

There are lots of stretches where you're just looking at trees (can get boring) between the spread-out towns (many are just a blip on the map) and you'll be racking up the miles. And like I said; other times you'll want to stay for a bit and explore.

On a trip like this, you want to enjoy the ride - it's beautiful country. It's not all about the destination.

That's why you really need to realistically plan out your trip (and try to stick to it). You can't see everything in just a few weeks, so you need to make decisions as to what you really want to see, and what you can just drive-by. We spent two nights in Anchorage, Chicken, Dawson, and Whitehorse. We blew thru Fairbanks (nothing there we really wanted to see). And we asked ourselves if it was really worth it to run up to the Arctic Circle or to Prudoe (spelling?) Bay and we said "no" because it would cut into us checking out other places. Your priorities might be different. The Milepost book is awesome. We also picked up a lot of little booklets that most of the decent sized towns in Alaska and Canada put out - these were also informative.
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I am guessing right now the ferry is only if needed, so that works with what you said.

The Arctic Circle to me is a must, back in 1980, my Dad, Mom, an Aunt and & I did a trip to Alaska from Chicago in a month old Mercury station wagon, my Dad & I did the side trip to the Arctic Circle and I would like to do it again. Back then, you could only go a little farther north of the Arctic Circle and then the road was closed to most people. I would like to go to Deadhorse, but I see that as being a 4 day round trip from Fairbanks, with overnights in Coldfoot, unless we push it. Now Inuvik, could be done in 3 days with a couple of overnights in Fort McPherson. Time will tell on this.

As for the camping, well one of the other guys going with me, will have his 3 boys and I think that hotels and stuff would get very costly. As of right now, it looks to be 4 vehicles going and anywhere from 8-12 people, but this trip is at least a year off. We do plan to do hotels about every 6th day.

Most of the people coming with me, are coming from Houston. we plan to start this from Durango, CO

I welcome any and all advice I can get.
This is a quick description of our trip:

My son and I drove my Grand Cherokee (2011) from Dallas, TX to Prudhoe Bay and back. Took the ferry up to Haines from Bellingham and got caught in the same wash-outs. Had to take the ferry back to Prince Rupert and drove on home from there. We were moving a little faster though, 20 days total (left Dallas 5-27) including the day and a half we lost at the wash-out south of Destruction Bay. Saw some great scenery met some great people. I wish we had the time to do the camping but we seldom stopped before 11pm, and were back on the road by 8am. Drove the Denali and the Dalton while we were there. Such beautiful country, can't wait to go back. Left Dallas 5/27, Spuce Goose in McMinnville, OR, 5/30, Martin Mars on Vancouver Island 5/31, ferry north 6/1-4, Prudhoe Bay 6/6, Destruction Bay wash-out 6/8, Haines ferry 6/9, Prince Rupert 6/12, Dallas home and dry 6/15.

So we drove about 8200 miles in 12 day of actual driving. The Alcan is all paved but not all that smooth and north of Colorado you can spend a lot of time held up by road construction. Most all of the roads in Alaska and Canada are 2 lane. The Dalton has some paved parts but all in all you wish they had left them gravel. You can do Prudhoe bay in 3 days, 1 up, 1 there, 1 back pretty easy, it's 500 miles from Fairbanks. Leave early going up (I assume you're going in the summer) and even if you get there late it will still be light. Sleep a little late , see the sights or do the tour and spend another night or drive back to Coldfoot. We got help up by road construction several times but it was never very long (30 min +/_) and you get a chance to look around. Rooms up north go for about $100 PER PERSON so be prepared. Fuel is also more ($5.39 in Prudhoe when we were there). Having said all that, it's a once in a lifetime chance I wouldn't miss, there is nothing like the vastness of the North Slope.

The ferry is a nice ride. Clean, great view, food's OK or you can bring your own, get a cabin or sleep on the deck or lounge. Great down-time but does cost more than driving. Best deal is take it from Haines to Prince Rupert and drive home. You can lay over a day in Juneau if you want.

Everyones goal is different, our was to drive as far north as you can go. I wanted to drive the Haul Road and I did. It's like nowhere else on earth. Set a few goals and decide what is most important. Like everyone points out, you can't do it all in 1 trip. But I will tell you, planning it is half the fun.

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Thanks

I am guessing right now the ferry is only if needed, so that works with what you said.

The Arctic Circle to me is a must, back in 1980, my Dad, Mom, an Aunt and & I did a trip to Alaska from Chicago in a month old Mercury station wagon, my Dad & I did the side trip to the Arctic Circle and I would like to do it again. Back then, you could only go a little farther north of the Arctic Circle and then the road was closed to most people. I would like to go to Deadhorse, but I see that as being a 4 day round trip from Fairbanks, with overnights in Coldfoot, unless we push it. Now Inuvik, could be done in 3 days with a couple of overnights in Fort McPherson. Time will tell on this.

As for the camping, well one of the other guys going with me, will have his 3 boys and I think that hotels and stuff would get very costly. As of right now, it looks to be 4 vehicles going and anywhere from 8-12 people, but this trip is at least a year off. We do plan to do hotels about every 6th day.

Most of the people coming with me, are coming from Houston. we plan to start this from Durango, CO

I welcome any and all advice I can get.
My advice - you really need to plan on camping well. Don't skimp; get some good gear. The boys especially will remember the nights you camped. If you read from the beginning of this thread you know I took a small trailer and carried most of our camping gear with it, and it worked out extremely well. And get a large canopy like we did for when it rains at your campsite (and it will).

Also, the Ferry only leaves once every two weeks. It's not like there are daily runs. If you're thinking of taking the ferry at any point (we did, and it was awesome) you really need to time it right.

And if you spend all your time driving you won't get to enjoy your time there. Take your time - there's no way you can see it all anyway.
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My advice - you really need to plan on camping well. Don't skimp; get some good gear. The boys especially will remember the nights you camped. If you read from the beginning of this thread you know I took a small trailer and carried most of our camping gear with it, and it worked out extremely well. And get a large canopy like we did for when it rains at your campsite (and it will).

Also, the Ferry only leaves once every two weeks. It's not like there are daily runs. If you're thinking of taking the ferry at any point (we did, and it was awesome) you really need to time it right.

And if you spend all your time driving you won't get to enjoy your time there. Take your time - there's no way you can see it all anyway.
Thanks, I am finding all of these replies to be of great help. I know I have 20 months to plan this, so I will plan it, let it sit and then revisit it and I guess I will ask more questions, hope you guys don't mind.

The group has done a lot of camping, and we all have good equipment, and now from your trip, new things to add over the next 20 months to make camping even better. Like that oven and a trailer, our next trip is Big Bend next March.

From listening to You and RW, I have already seen that what I was thinking was pushing it too much. That plan has changed and guessing it will change again and again before we leave. It looks like we will have 3 full weeks in NW Canada and Alaska (area north of Prince George and Dawson Creek). Right now, how I see our trip, everyone will put in what is important (first, second, third) to them and then I will try to make that happen. Should extra time be available, then we will add more to the trip. One part of planning trips, I find that is very hard, is how much time in each place, like 1, 2, 3 days in Denali or what? I would like to go to Deadhorse, but not sure I want to try and push it in 2-3 days, Inuvik should be a easy 3 day trip, but I have 20 months to decide.

As of right now, the ferry is outside the budget, I did it back in 198x and have done a cruise (2008) up there. I would like to do it, but just not sure the price will be affordable.

A couple of guys are looking into taking 5 weeks, I will be retired, so for me it is not a big deal. Should the extra week happen for them, then we will add something in Alaska or maybe Glacier and/or Yellowstone.
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