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Unread 12-12-2013, 11:16 AM   #16
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The WJ stops real well for a fairly heavy tank. If you feel like the brakes are inadequate with 32-33 in tires or smaller, you need to go thru the system and fix it. If you want to experience "bad" brakes, go drive a 88-98 GM truck with anything more than stock tires, or over a few thousand miles.. !
I had a 94 gmc on 35s with 208k on it and let me tell you stopping in my wj is a whole hell of a lot easier than that big ***** lol

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Unread 12-12-2013, 11:46 AM   #17
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The WJ stops real well for a fairly heavy tank.
If you feel like the brakes are inadequate with 32-33 in tires or smaller, you need to go thru the system and fix it.

If you want to experience "bad" brakes, go drive a 88-98 GM truck with anything more than stock tires, or over a few thousand miles.. !
Man that is the truth. I have a 98 Suburban 1500 4WD that is my tow rig. That's a lot of truck for 1/2 ton brakes as it is, and those brakes are just not great. It's got 165K on it, but even with new calipers, pads, rotors..... It's just marginal.

My trailer has brakes on both axles and I bought that brand new, so she stops pretty well towing though.

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Unread 12-12-2013, 06:39 PM   #18
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How about any upgrades using a newer wk or wk2 brakes put into the wj? I know with my 350z a popular upgrade for 1200-1400 is the akebono sport brakes from the 370z sport package which with an adapter bolted right up and gave a much much better braking performance and was half the cost of those BBK. Has any one done that?
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Unread 12-12-2013, 09:14 PM   #19
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What year WJs have the akebono breaks?
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Unread 12-12-2013, 10:02 PM   #20
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2001 JGC 4.7 with stillen rotors and pads (Kolak)

pretty good once you step into them

still lousy performance at tip in

maybe needs a new booster?

checked into 4-6 piston calipers they were over $3000
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Unread 12-13-2013, 10:12 AM   #21
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What about upgrading to braided flex lines? I did that on my wife's Nissan Maxima and my old Infiniti G20 and it was a huge improvement on pedal feel.
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Unread 12-14-2013, 11:38 AM   #22
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I tried braided line on other vehicles. Made for a firmer pedal that I did not like in commute traffic

but who knows? it might help on the Jeep

I used to do Camaro and firebird projects. There were a ton of brake upgrades available if you were willing to mod the caliper bracket for larger rotor and bigger caliper. Have seen none of this in Jeep world.
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Unread 12-14-2013, 12:55 PM   #23
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I tried braided line on other vehicles. Made for a firmer pedal that I did not like in commute traffic

but who knows? it might help on the Jeep

I used to do Camaro and firebird projects. There were a ton of brake upgrades available if you were willing to mod the caliper bracket for larger rotor and bigger caliper. Have seen none of this in Jeep world.
WJ brakes are a popular upgrade for other Jeeps that have a single piston caliper (TJ, XJ, ZJ, etc.)

Not many people are dissatisfied with WJ brakes.
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Unread 12-14-2013, 12:58 PM   #24
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I am happy with the WJ brakes other than the pedal is a bit soft...
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Unread 12-15-2013, 08:52 PM   #25
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WJ brakes are a popular upgrade for other Jeeps that have a single piston caliper (TJ, XJ, ZJ, etc.)

Not many people are dissatisfied with WJ brakes.
Not surprised. Like I said once you step into it my brakes (in my case Stillen) work really well the only upgrade being drilled rotors and hipo pads.

I don't like the tip-in or light application performance IMO it should be much better given the quality of application under medium or heavy braking. IMO it is not predictably linear in progression. The result is too much pedal travel which braided lines could do a lot to help.

In my last project my front brakes went from 10.5 inch to 12.5 inch rotors and one piston to 4 pistons all for under $1000. This amounted to a 72% increase in swept area, included use of hi performance pads and the end of brake fade. It included a pretty simple mod to the spindle and a new bracket to mount the caliper to. I have not found similar upgrades (thru internet search) for Jeep WJ -- do you know of any?
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Unread 02-11-2014, 03:13 PM   #26
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WJ brakes are a popular upgrade for other Jeeps that have a single piston caliper (TJ, XJ, ZJ, etc.)

Not many people are dissatisfied with WJ brakes.
I am dissatisfied with my WJ brakes.

Stock WJ...they seem to work great on the road, but fade quickly on steep forest service and logging roads. I was thinking that if I could find a good upgrade for my WJ, I would move the WJ brakes over to my XJ.

It seems that when I first purchased my WJ in 2012, there was still a kit available from Brembo at Tire Rack, but I'm seeing nothing now. Does anyone out there know anything about this kit or other comparable kits?

I am okay with up to about $1500. If I can spend thousands on putting big tires on it and making it accelerate faster, I don't see why spending thousands also on improving braking should be a problem.
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Unread 02-11-2014, 03:39 PM   #27
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Refresh what you got there...new quality pads + rotors + front akebono calipers (if you have Teves), lube all slides, flush the brake fluid, and re-bleed.

If you do all that and still have issues, check your master cylinder...these Jeeps stop very well when maintained.
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Unread 02-11-2014, 07:52 PM   #28
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Here's the ultimate kit to blow lots of money on lol:

http://www.stillen.com/products/brak...e-kits-100207/

I'm sure I could give you a great deal on that kit but it's profound overkill.

PM me your email address and I'll send you all the information about the stock diameter Stillen rotors and pads. You will be very happy with the performance improvement, AND I have them on special right now too

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I am dissatisfied with my WJ brakes.

Stock WJ...they seem to work great on the road, but fade quickly on steep forest service and logging roads. I was thinking that if I could find a good upgrade for my WJ, I would move the WJ brakes over to my XJ.

It seems that when I first purchased my WJ in 2012, there was still a kit available from Brembo at Tire Rack, but I'm seeing nothing now. Does anyone out there know anything about this kit or other comparable kits?

I am okay with up to about $1500. If I can spend thousands on putting big tires on it and making it accelerate faster, I don't see why spending thousands also on improving braking should be a problem.
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