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post #1 of 15 Old 07-19-2017, 08:03 AM Thread Starter
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Where to attach hand winch?

I need to use a hand winch (some call them come-ups) to move something a few feet in my front yard. It weighs probably 300 pounds. But i have no trees or anything in the yard to anchor the winch to.

I thought about anchoring the winch to my 2000 WJ Laredo, but my jeep doesnt have either a tow hitch or tow hooks.

Is it safe to run the anchoring cable or strap around something underneath the jeep like a diff or both front or rear wheels?

Obviously i dont want to damage the jeep.

I know I could buy and install a rear hitch, but I'm trying to keep the cost down.

Appreciate any suggestions.

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post #2 of 15 Old 07-19-2017, 08:11 AM
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I need to use a hand winch (some call them come-ups) to move something a few feet in my front yard. It weighs probably 300 pounds. But i have no trees or anything in the yard to anchor the winch to.

I thought about anchoring the winch to my 2000 WJ Laredo, but my jeep doesnt have either a tow hitch or tow hooks.

Is it safe to run the anchoring cable or strap around something underneath the jeep like a diff or both front or rear wheels?

Obviously i dont want to damage the jeep.

I know I could buy and install a rear hitch, but I'm trying to keep the cost down.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thnks,

AEP
If only a few yards, I would make sure I'm careful and strap it to the axle (not the diff). Someone may have a better suggestion.

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Where to attach hand winch?

There is no "good" way for what you're trying to do.

Something with a static weight of 300 pounds becomes effectively "heavier" when you try to move it.

That doesn't even address the multiplied forces introduced by the act of trying to move it.

That's how you end up with YouTube videos of entire axle assemblies being instantly extracted from vehicles.


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I don't love this either but, were the job mine to do, I'd hook it to one or a couple of the molded-in cargo tie-down loops on the cargo area floor. They're plastic but tough.
That may give you a mechanical lift that could help to "lighten" the poundage too.
If one rips up, no big deal.
The other place is in the spare tire well, where the hook goes up through the middle of the spare tire. Use that metal loop. Again if it snaps, no biggie.
Be sure to use a blanket or something over the rope/cable/chain to dampen the recoil it if it lets go.

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The axles are subjected to forces much larger than that every time you drive it. Just be careful not to pinch a brake line if you wrap around the rear axle.

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Thanks for the suggestions. One more thought: What if i take the tow strap through the grille down around the front bumper? I figure the bumper is where an electric winch would attach if i had one. Or does the bumper assembly get reinforced before an electric winch is installed?

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The axle is not a good place to strap it to, neither are the tie down points in the cargo area, I drilled one out yesterday, they're only held in by 2 rivets!!! Enough to hold down a box of paper for the ****ter but not for a hand winch.
If you can't get someone to help that has a suitable tow point on their car, dig a hole and use your spare as a ground anchor
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Thanks for the suggestions. One more thought: What if i take the tow strap through the grille down around the front bumper? I figure the bumper is where an electric winch would attach if i had one. Or does the bumper assembly get reinforced before an electric winch is installed?

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Unless you have a aftermarket bumper then no. There is nothing to attach to there.

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I believe Jeep will install a trailer hitch on your vehicle as part of a recall
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Unless you have a aftermarket bumper then no. There is nothing to attach to there.

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I meant running the tow strap behind the inner bumper assembly attached to the frame, not just the plastic bumper fascia. I'm assuming that the inner asembly is the same as when an elec winch is attached and just the fascia is different.
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Still no. That bumper cover is not affixed to the metal bumper underneath with anything other then 2 10MM screws on the sides, some pop rivets and the Philips head screws on the grill. Even if you can find a way to get to the inner bumper assembly without taking off the bumper, it's probably going to mess up the bumper with marks from the rope or cable, could permanently mis-shape it or tear the bumper's plastic mounting holes.


If you don't like the rear cargo hold-downs, use the spare tire well components.
One other place would be the transmission cross bar support but that's not going to be very easy to get to.

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Still no. That bumper cover is not affixed to the metal bumper underneath with anything other then 2 10MM screws on the sides, some pop rivets and the Philips head screws on the grill. Even if you can find a way to get to the inner bumper assembly without taking off the bumper, it's probably going to mess up the bumper with marks from the rope or cable, could permanently mis-shape it or tear the bumper's plastic mounting holes.


If you don't like the rear cargo hold-downs, use the spare tire well components.
One other place would be the transmission cross bar support but that's not going to be very easy to get to.
Thanks. The trans crossbar is a possibility. But maybe this is the excuse I've needed to get a tow hitch.

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Get the hitch...it was the only thing (with ball hitch installed) that stood up to a rear impact at 30mph and let me drive away.
Insurance totaled the Jeep after but I was able to keep it anyway because of that hitch ball assembly being there.

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Get the hitch...it was the only thing (with ball hitch installed) that stood up to a rear impact at 30mph and let me drive away.
Insurance totaled the Jeep after but I was able to keep it anyway because of that hitch ball assembly being there.
Probably a good time to invest in front recovery hooks/shackles as well.

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