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Unread 09-21-2011, 06:07 AM   #1
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Wheelin your WJ

I have taken my WJ out a few times in the UK on what we call pay & play which are basically unused mines quarries farm land. Now my jeep is only lifted 2" but no matter what the lift I think if you really want to tear it up a decent front bumper at the least is required without it you plastic parts will be torn off. just my thoughts really.

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Unread 09-21-2011, 10:57 AM   #2
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It all depends on how and where you wheel. Ive got a few front bumper scratches but nothing close to ripping it off on green/blue trails.
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Unread 09-21-2011, 12:05 PM   #3
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wish there were more 'pay & play' places here in NEW England! haven't really wheeled my WJ too much but getting up my driveway in the winter seems to always be an adventure! that's why my family has 2!
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Unread 09-21-2011, 06:11 PM   #4
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Adam where in MA you from?
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Unread 09-21-2011, 09:19 PM   #5
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Easy to rip off front bumper if your in mud or get hug up and reverse !

Bigger lift will help with approach and departure angles
But in the end if your wheeling hard, steel bumpers front and rear are nice to have.
It too costly to import due to shipping cost so look into getting them fab up in metal shop.

I'm not lifted just 1" above stock and I plow the trails with my transfer case so armor up the under side if you've not done so already. Fuel tank and transfer most important. Lower radiator is exposed so look at trying to protect it too.

Where I've been wheeling it's common to drive through bush and shrubs and the front bumper gets marked quickly and in forest it's too easy to hit a stump hiding in the foliage. and tree branches scratch everything.

Most of the guys here have dedicated trail rigs and bash them hard, they are no longer road legal so have to be towed on a trailer by their DD.
I'm undecided to turn my GC into tow vehicle or trail rig. But I've realized it too costly to have it as DD & weekend warrior.
I need two jeeps.

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Unread 09-22-2011, 06:00 AM   #6
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I don't wheel my WJ now it's in to good condition to throw around & on this side of the pond everything is so expensive to buy. Jeep is really an American toy I have a Suzuki Samurai now for pay & plays. Stock the ride height is is taller than my lifted WJ & it has metal bumpers. On road tyres it can go more places than my lifted Jeep with AT's. Can't wait to get mud tyres on it which there are loads in the stock size.
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Unread 09-22-2011, 06:29 AM   #7
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The WJ is a luxury SUV, it was never designed to be utilitarian enough for the abuse most 4x4's get on Pay & Play days.

That said I'm surprised that's your biggest concern Charger.
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Unread 09-22-2011, 07:34 AM   #8
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I disagree. It was designed to be able, but most who own them never will and jeep knew that. The WJ is a sturdy jeep and very capable but honestly i have been thinking over the past week while she has been down. I think i may completely scrap the 4in lift idea and just go with OME and armor for the light wheeling she may see. I like the WJ more as a DD/tow rig/family rig/light trails to a remote camp site. But rocks and mud? Probably not until I win the lottery.

But as far as its design goes it was built for offroad, just refined for those who could care less about going there. Plus Id feel a bit wierd doing hardcore wheeling in all that luxary...
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Unread 09-22-2011, 08:39 AM   #9
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Designed to be able certainly, built for off-road definitely - But there's no way Jeep designed the WJ to be as utilitarian as a Suzuki Samurai.
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Unread 09-22-2011, 08:55 AM   #10
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Designed to be able certainly, built for off-road definitely - But there's no way Jeep designed the WJ to be as utilitarian as a Suzuki Samurai.
^^ agree... Have seen these little Suzuki samurai in action off road and I'm blown away how it manages to do what it does. But it doesn't make for a DD especially at motor way speeds.

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Unread 09-22-2011, 09:28 AM   #11
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I agree with charger also about front bumpers. First time I took my WJ to a pay n play, I knocked out my foglight with in 30 min. of getting there. I have a 2" lift and by the end of the day all the plastic air dams were missing, and reversing in the mud ripped the plastic cover off half way off.
Now as far as WJ capability, I was very proud to be pulled out buy a couple guys in samurais that were exo framed, locked and well pounded on. One of them asked me how I got my station wagon so far back in the s***. It was a fun day.
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Unread 09-22-2011, 11:20 AM   #12
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I agree with charger also about front bumpers. First time I took my WJ to a pay n play, I knocked out my foglight with in 30 min. of getting there. I have a 2" lift and by the end of the day all the plastic air dams were missing, and reversing in the mud ripped the plastic cover off half way off.
Now as far as WJ capability, I was very proud to be pulled out buy a couple guys in samurais that were exo framed, locked and well pounded on. One of them asked me how I got my station wagon so far back in the s***. It was a fun day.
Haha
This sounds so familiar I put big dint in fuel tank cover. As a samurai guy smiled
Got to love the samurai guys
And it's cheap to lift and make fully trail ready. Just can't get my head around it being so small.


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Unread 09-23-2011, 01:02 AM   #13
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The WJ is a luxury SUV, it was never designed to be utilitarian enough for the abuse most 4x4's get on Pay & Play days.

That said I'm surprised that's your biggest concern Charger.
What should my biggest concern be

Good to See more Europe & UK people here too
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Unread 09-23-2011, 05:59 AM   #14
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This why I'm glad to live in the American west, Arizona to be exact. It's all open free and plentiful 4 wheeling. The concept of pay to drive trails is completely foreign to me. I know they have them in the midwest and back east but out west it's all open and free. Ok now with that said I'm a big fan of the UK you all have some beautiful land.
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Unread 09-23-2011, 08:25 AM   #15
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We have green lanes which are public lanes that you need a 4wd to drive on. Pay & plays are privately owned land that the owner lets you hoon around on for a price.
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