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post #6526 of Old 11-21-2011, 01:39 AM
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Going to the dealer in the morning to see what ALL is leaking, i told them im leaking from behind the oil filter its pretty bad, 500 miles and my dip stick says to add oil. Filter is tight and not a double gasket. I know my ps pump is leaking but i really care more about the oil leak. I would like to be able to park on the drive way and not worry about oil marks every second. Any ideas i should mention cause they think its just the ps pump but i know its oil too
I was leaking oil badly awhile ago and it was my oil pressure switch that was causing the leak. It is right behind the oil filter. Have you had pressure problems on your gauges?

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post #6527 of Old 11-21-2011, 07:04 AM
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I picked up a set of 8 mm wheel spacers this morning ($23 total at Advance Auto) so I can mount my front wheels without grinding a crap ton of metal off of my calipers (they hit really badly not just a little). I do not care much for spacers but I mainly hate the kind that bolt up then have their own studs placed into an aluminum flange because the aluminum flange is not as strong as a typical cast iron hub and they tend to break. The flanges on these steel wheels are about 5-6mm thinner than my old aluminum wheels so having roughly 2-3 mm less threads on the lug studs does not bother me. Wheels are going to stick out 8 mm more than they already do (120 mm) so 128 mm or 5.04 inches over stock on each side.

My Daystar 2" BB should be here by friday or next monday and I will have it installed on Wednesday the 30th. It needs the 2" of lift for sure otherwise those tires are gong to do some custom body work and a washer bottle and fog light delete.
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post #6528 of Old 11-21-2011, 07:22 AM
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I picked up a set of 8 mm wheel spacers this morning ($23 total at Advance Auto) so I can mount my front wheels without grinding a crap ton of metal off of my calipers (they hit really badly not just a little). I do not care much for spacers but I mainly hate the kind that bolt up then have their own studs placed into an aluminum flange because the aluminum flange is not as strong as a typical cast iron hub and they tend to break. The flanges on these steel wheels are about 5-6mm thinner than my old aluminum wheels so having roughly 2-3 mm less threads on the lug studs does not bother me. Wheels are going to stick out 8 mm more than they already do (120 mm) so 128 mm or 5.04 inches over stock on each side.

My Daystar 2" BB should be here by friday or next monday and I will have it installed on Wednesday the 30th. It needs the 2" of lift for sure otherwise those tires are gong to do some custom body work and a washer bottle and fog light delete.

Are you talking about this type of spacer being used to get you the additional 8mm? If so, never use more than one per wheel and the torque wrench is your friend.

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post #6529 of Old 11-21-2011, 07:34 AM
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Are you talking about this type of spacer being used to get you the additional 8mm? If so, never use more than one per wheel and the torque wrench is your friend.

They are just 8mm wafer spacers that use the existing studs and if it were not for the much thinner wheel hub of the steel wheels I would have concerns about the length of the studs. Those in the pic look like they have their own built in studs and that is where those type of spacers tend to fail the aluminum cracks and the studs break away and the wheel falls off. Yes I know to never stack spacers.
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I was leaking oil badly awhile ago and it was my oil pressure switch that was causing the leak. It is right behind the oil filter. Have you had pressure problems on your gauges?
My gauges are all normal, the oil pressure shows a little high but i feel like every wj does this

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post #6531 of Old 11-21-2011, 09:00 AM
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They are just 8mm wafer spacers that use the existing studs and if it were not for the much thinner wheel hub of the steel wheels I would have concerns about the length of the studs. Those in the pic look like they have their own built in studs and that is where those type of spacers tend to fail the aluminum cracks and the studs break away and the wheel falls off. Yes I know to never stack spacers.

Those are thin aluminum spacers, about .25 inch thick, maybe a little less. No separate studs, the spacer just slides over the axle's studs. In my situation, my 8.8 was build with longer wheel studs that are common with race cars, which is a good idea if you are using axle under a race car. Not so good under a Jeep, so I have since tossed the spacers and replaced the wheel studs with OEM style studs. My problems were caused by having two of these spacers stacked together.. I didn't know at the time that was a big no no. Even with just one spacer, if you do not have wheels torqued correctly, the spacer will crack, fall apart, then you will quickly have bigger problems like lug studs shearing off. Like five of them within seconds.
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Those are thin aluminum spacers, about .25 inch thick, maybe a little less. No separate studs, the spacer just slides over the axle's studs. In my situation, my 8.8 was build with longer wheel studs that are common with race cars, which is a good idea if you are using axle under a race car. Not so good under a Jeep, so I have since tossed the spacers and replaced the wheel studs with OEM style studs. My problems were caused by having two of these spacers stacked together.. I didn't know at the time that was a big no no. Even with just one spacer, if you do not have wheels torqued correctly, the spacer will crack, fall apart, then you will quickly have bigger problems like lug studs shearing off. Like five of them within seconds.
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Wow that sucks. Mine are 8 mm thick so about 0.25". I am using only one with the stock length studs. I need 5-6 mm to clear the calipers up front and I would rather not take that much metal off them if I do not have to. I will torque to 100 ft/lbs like I normally do. I always check and re-torque after the first tightening. I wish the spacer was cast iron or steel but they had only aluminum ones.
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post #6534 of Old 11-21-2011, 10:54 AM
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Just dumped in some UV dye to find out exactly where all my leaks are coming from

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post #6535 of Old 11-21-2011, 11:09 AM
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Wow that sucks. Mine are 8 mm thick so about 0.25". I am using only one with the stock length studs. I need 5-6 mm to clear the calipers up front and I would rather not take that much metal off them if I do not have to. I will torque to 100 ft/lbs like I normally do. I always check and re-torque after the first tightening. I wish the spacer was cast iron or steel but they had only aluminum ones.
From what I understand, they use these spacers on race cars and there is no issue with using them as long as you don't stack them, and you correctly torque your lug nuts.... The guy that built my 8.8 must have a little race car experience in his background as he built the axle with as much over kill as he could, plus he used lug studs, lug nuts, and these wheel spacers which are all common with race cars from my understanding. Nothing wrong with these longer high tensell (spell?) studs, just not the best choice for a Jeep that is in mud and on rocks.
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post #6536 of Old 11-21-2011, 11:24 AM
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post #6537 of Old 11-21-2011, 11:28 AM
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From what I understand, they use these spacers on race cars and there is no issue with using them as long as you don't stack them, and you correctly torque your lug nuts.... The guy that built my 8.8 must have a little race car experience in his background as he built the axle with as much over kill as he could, plus he used lug studs, lug nuts, and these wheel spacers which are all common with race cars from my understanding. Nothing wrong with these longer high tensell (spell?) studs, just not the best choice for a Jeep that is in mud and on rocks.
I think for you the killer was the torque exerted on the lug studs themselves. With them being super long and the wheel hub being out about a half an inch on them, the torque on the studs was much greater than normal and all it took was time and maybe the lugs being a tad loose for you to have that mishap.
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I think for you the killer was the torque exerted on the lug studs themselves. With them being super long and the wheel hub being out about a half an inch on them, the torque on the studs was much greater than normal and all it took was time and maybe the lugs being a tad loose for you to have that mishap.
I don't it happened in the same order as you do,,, having two spacers stacked (big no no), caused one of the spacers, or or both of them? to crack and crumble in a million little pieces,,,, once the spacers fell out, the wheel & 33 inch tire had 0.50 inch to flex out which is when the torque popped the wheel studs at the base like they were made out of peppermint. Literally, I pulled out of a parking lot onto a busy road, I kind of got my foot into the throttle body, and heard pop, pop, pop, about 4 times. Within about 50 foot there were 4 lug bolts evenly spaced, and at the beginning of the mess was what was left of my wheel spacers, what you see and a lot of dust and smaller pieces.
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I don't it happened in the same order as you do,,, having two spacers stacked (big no no), caused the spacers, or or both of them? to crack and crumble in a million little pieces,,,, once the spacers fell out, the wheel & 33 inch tire had 0.50 inch to flex out which is when the torque popped the wheel studs at the base like they were made out of peppermint. Literally, I pulled out of a parking lot onto a busy road, I kind of got my foot into the throttle body, and heard pop, pop, pop, about 4 times. Within about 50 foot there were 4 lug bolts evenly spaced, and at the beginning of the mess was what was left of my wheel spacers, what you see and a lot of dust and smaller pieces.
Ah got you. I did not realize the spacers actually crumbled. I thought the studs broke which broke the spacers. That makes sense though if they crumbled the wheel was just wobbling on the studs and it did not last long like that. I guess it is very good idea to inspect my spacers every time I rotate my tires (every 3-6K miles depending how hard I drive).
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