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Unread 05-13-2011, 12:52 AM   #3121
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I'm also in the process of coming up with some mint AWD emblems (I think ::cough:: Subaru ::cough:: has the emblems I like), I don't really agree with the 4x4 badges.
your jeep is not all wheel drive thus you can not put an awd emblem on it rightfully. "but compcrasher it's all time four wheel drive" subies have a power split all the time. Your jeep is normally feeding all of the power to the rear axle, it's completely rear wheel drive which is what makes them such a pleasure to drive. Once your rear wheels start to slip the transfer case completely and mechanically uses gerator pump driven clutch packs to engage the front axle. It's true 4x4 driveshafts locked when ur in 4lo so the 4x4 badge is appropriate. AWD (unfortunately for your case cus you like the subie badges) is not as there is not a full time power split.

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Unread 05-13-2011, 12:57 AM   #3122
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your jeep is not all wheel drive thus you can not put an awd emblem on it rightfully. "but compcrasher it's all time four wheel drive" subies have a power split all the time. Your jeep is normally feeding all of the power to the rear axle, it's completely rear wheel drive which is what makes them such a pleasure to drive. Once your rear wheels start to slip the transfer case completely and mechanically uses gerator pump driven clutch packs to engage the front axle. It's true 4x4 driveshafts locked when ur in 4lo so the 4x4 badge is appropriate. AWD (unfortunately for your case cus you like the subie badges) is not as there is not a full time power split.

^^^ What he said.
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Unread 05-13-2011, 01:18 AM   #3123
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your jeep is not all wheel drive thus you can not put an awd emblem on it rightfully. "but compcrasher it's all time four wheel drive" subies have a power split all the time. Your jeep is normally feeding all of the power to the rear axle, it's completely rear wheel drive which is what makes them such a pleasure to drive. Once your rear wheels start to slip the transfer case completely and mechanically uses gerator pump driven clutch packs to engage the front axle. It's true 4x4 driveshafts locked when ur in 4lo so the 4x4 badge is appropriate. AWD (unfortunately for your case cus you like the subie badges) is not as there is not a full time power split.
Ok, I guess I misunderstood how the system was working. I pulled up over my curb with my rear wheels on the street and front wheels in the grass, and when I gave it gas the front tires seemed to spin right away. Idk, I've read explanations of how the lockers and vari lock system works with the quadra drive II system and I'm completely lost and semi-retarded on the comprehension end....lol........If you can't tell this is the first vehicle I've owned that isn't two wheel drive........


So this setup is similar to the "auto 4wd" option on my dad's '07 Silverado? That keeps his truck 2wd until the rear tires spin then engages the front tires.
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Unread 05-13-2011, 05:54 AM   #3124
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i agreee... i just didnt wanna say anything... i would have gotten the whole jeep repainted ..everything is fresh minus that rear pass. door
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looks good, but that rear passenger door sticks out like a sore thumb homie, you gotta do something about that...especially if that is original factory paint, it'll look likes hit
Once they buff it you wont even be able to tell... If its an issue Il have it resprayed but I dont think it will be... Il find out here in a bit..
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Unread 05-13-2011, 06:02 AM   #3125
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Ok, I guess I misunderstood how the system was working. I pulled up over my curb with my rear wheels on the street and front wheels in the grass, and when I gave it gas the front tires seemed to spin right away. Idk, I've read explanations of how the lockers and vari lock system works with the quadra drive II system and I'm completely lost and semi-retarded on the comprehension end....lol........If you can't tell this is the first vehicle I've owned that isn't two wheel drive........


So this setup is similar to the "auto 4wd" option on my dad's '07 Silverado? That keeps his truck 2wd until the rear tires spin then engages the front tires.











when the Quadra drive system is working correctly, it almost does so seamlessly. If you climb a long steep hill covered in lose gravel or dirt, you will actually feel the steering wheel pull left & right slightly as the front wheels adjust for traction.... other than that, the Quadra Drive will just do its thing automatically. The Quadra Drive loves ice and snow,,, it just flat doesn't care. Unfortunately, the Quadra Drive will make you easily go on snow/ice covered roads, but the Jeep will still stop like a normal Jeep. This can quickly get you in trouble because you have no idea how slick the roads are until you try to stop.
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Unread 05-13-2011, 07:04 AM   #3126
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Ok, I guess I misunderstood how the system was working. I pulled up over my curb with my rear wheels on the street and front wheels in the grass, and when I gave it gas the front tires seemed to spin right away. Idk, I've read explanations of how the lockers and vari lock system works with the quadra drive II system and I'm completely lost and semi-retarded on the comprehension end....lol........If you can't tell this is the first vehicle I've owned that isn't two wheel drive........

So this setup is similar to the "auto 4wd" option on my dad's '07 Silverado? That keeps his truck 2wd until the rear tires spin then engages the front tires.
Hey no problem dude I'm glad I could clear it up for you, it's amazing how far the technologies come. The system is near instant when the jeep is warmed up, usually takes 1/4 rotation at most of slip for the clutches to figure out you're slipping a tire. The delay is only big right in the morning when you're first pulling out of a snowy parking spot and the pump hasn't primed yet. You got the nicest system for your wj, dual variloks is virtually unstoppable lol even with bald street tires

I'm not totally sure how the system in the silverados work but I'm pretty sure it's the same. The best I've ever seen was in my moms 00 suburban, auto 4wd worked like a 247 and she had options for 2hi 4hi and 4lo. Those are all electric shift though in the wj you get to do the nice rolling neutral shift to get into 4lo
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Unread 05-13-2011, 07:08 AM   #3127
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Thinking about dumping the BB for this:
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=PFW

As far as I can tell it comes with everything I should need and give me a little more room to stuff my tires so I can order or fab up some discos for the front and rear.

I'm also in the process of coming up with some mint AWD emblems (I think ::cough:: Subaru ::cough:: has the emblems I like), I don't really agree with the 4x4 badges.
your Jeep isn't all wheel drive?!?!?!? It's ALL TIME (available) 4 wheel drive.
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Unread 05-13-2011, 07:26 AM   #3128
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This pretty much explains how it works. http://www.jeep.com/en/4x4/how_syste...uadra_drive_2/

Most of the Jeep "all wheel drive" systems work similar to this. They run in RWD until a wheel starts slip/spin then the system kicks in.

That site also has all of the other 4WD systems listed so you can go through them individually.
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Unread 05-13-2011, 08:24 AM   #3129
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Thanks CTJeepWJ, that page from Jeep helps me understand it. And thanks CompCrasher, I wasn't 100% sure about the 4-lo selection; I thought you had to be stopped and in neutral, I didn't realize I could engage it on a slow roll.



I obviously purchased this vehicle out of my league, and I a little more when I learn more about it.
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Unread 05-13-2011, 08:51 AM   #3130
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--snip--

I obviously purchased this vehicle out of my league, and I a little more when I learn more about it.

The nice thing about owning a Jeep is there is always something new to learn and other Jeepers are usually more than happy to help a feller (grin) Jeeper out. There are a kibillion write ups, most with step by step instructions and photos that will walk you thru the process of common repairs or modifications. It's all part of being in the "Jeep family"..... just don't forget to
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Unread 05-13-2011, 09:48 AM   #3131
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Thanks little__jeep!


I'm working on trying to complete some of the smaller cheaper mods right now until I can make a decision about coils and shocks. I did the rear seat pins and am going to do the quad mod on the taillights soon and make all of the bulbs match and go to led.
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Unread 05-13-2011, 09:59 AM   #3132
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Thanks little__jeep!


I'm working on trying to complete some of the smaller cheaper mods right now until I can make a decision about coils and shocks. I did the rear seat pins and am going to do the quad mod on the taillights soon and make all of the bulbs match and go to led.
Yupp i just posted up pics from mine in mt build thread in my sig
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