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Unread 09-21-2013, 09:46 PM   #24661
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That's because they were replaced with and electric fan that replaced it. If you have the tow package you might have both, but I've only ever found the two on the 4.7's at the wreckers so far. Never on a 4.0L. As well it's been posted here that gas mileage will suffer with it added. Why do you need to add it? The electric one not working properly?
My 4.0 came factory with both....

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Unread 09-21-2013, 11:04 PM   #24662
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Replace both CV axle shafts due to torn boots. Funny how its only 20$ more to replace the whole shaft rather just the boots, after you turn in the core charge at napa.
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Unread 09-21-2013, 11:39 PM   #24663
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My 4.0 came factory with both....
Well I find it weird that after a year its just now starting to give me problems.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 12:09 AM   #24664
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yesterday - replaced the alternator, had a spare in the jeep so went quick.
today - i just got back from a night run, had a great time!
tomorrow - time to change the diff fluid, thank you oh great Jeep gods for putting drain plugs on the JK axles!
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Unread 09-22-2013, 06:04 AM   #24665
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Well im kind of really pissed off... putting in the switch was simple, took all of 5 min. Only to discover that my wipers still dont work! The spray works both front and rear, but none of the blades move. Now what? I replaced the wiper motor and the linkage its hooked up to, and now my switch, both front and rear wipers dont work...



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Unread 09-22-2013, 06:13 AM   #24666
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Well im kind of really pissed off... putting in the switch was simple, took all of 5 min. Only to discover that my wipers still dont work! The spray works both front and rear, but none of the blades move. Now what? I replaced the wiper motor and the linkage its hooked up to, and now my switch, both front and rear wipers dont work...
Fuse under dash C1 (20A) is for wipers, Also there Are 2 relay in engine compartment fuse box, one for hi/low and one for on/off (32/33)

http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/power_dist_ctr_02.jpg

Checked them out yet?
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Unread 09-22-2013, 06:45 AM   #24667
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How do I check the relays? I know the fuses are good, bu you can just look at the relay and see like a fuse


So I noticed they all have the same numbers on them so I took 2 I knew worked starter and o2 sensor and swapped them in place of the 2 wiper relays, and they still dont work.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 07:08 AM   #24668
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Nice looking dub, mines exactly the same, color and rims, everything.
Thank you!
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Unread 09-22-2013, 07:09 AM   #24669
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How do I check the relays? I know the fuses are good, bu you can just look at the relay and see like a fuse


So I noticed they all have the same numbers on them so I took 2 I knew worked starter and o2 sensor and swapped them in place of the 2 wiper relays, and they still dont work.
energize the coil with a batt (fuse the power lead, 20A will be fine) and listen to see if the switch side closes. Google search for a "relay pin out"
IRC the coil pins are usually 85,86.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 07:41 AM   #24670
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energize the coil with a batt (fuse the power lead, 20A will be fine) and listen to see if the switch side closes. Google search for a "relay pin out"
IRC the coil pins are usually 85,86.
I watched a few videos and read some things, but in more then one they said you can swap another relay to check. I swapped the starter and o2 sensor relays (since my car starts fine and the o2 sensor works) in the wiper relays, and still a no go.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 07:45 AM   #24671
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I watched a few videos and read some things, but in more then one they said you can swap another relay to check. I swapped the starter and o2 sensor relays (since my car starts fine and the o2 sensor works) in the wiper relays, and still a no go.
Check curcuit breaker C1 under dash,,,
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Unread 09-22-2013, 08:02 AM   #24672
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Check curcuit breaker C1 under dash,,,
Ill have to take the das apart for that so ill check that later. I hav to ge some sleep I work 7pm-7am. Came home hoping to get this done. But ill do it when I wake up before work
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Unread 09-22-2013, 08:26 AM   #24673
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I watched a few videos and read some things, but in more then one they said you can swap another relay to check. I swapped the starter and o2 sensor relays (since my car starts fine and the o2 sensor works) in the wiper relays, and still a no go.
Than go straight to the motor and check for power, and work backwards.

Pin 5 on the harness should be a BR/WT wire and should have power with wipers on LO. Pin 6 RD/YL wire should have power with wipers on HI.

If not than back up to the control side of the relay, and investigate what controls the coil side of the relay, make sure one side of coil goes to ground and other side goes hi.
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QUOTE=billzcat1;wsar10 is right on point on this oil thread - as usual. Anyone reading this would be well-served taking his advice.


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Unread 09-22-2013, 08:29 AM   #24674
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Check curcuit breaker C1 under dash,,,
C1 is a connector indicator.......... (BCM connector)

BUT the breaker you speak of is within the "junction block" and can be tested for power at pin 9 of "C2" which is the junction block connector.
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QUOTE=billzcat1;wsar10 is right on point on this oil thread - as usual. Anyone reading this would be well-served taking his advice.


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Unread 09-22-2013, 08:33 AM   #24675
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Ill have to take the das apart for that so ill check that later. I hav to ge some sleep I work 7pm-7am. Came home hoping to get this done. But ill do it when I wake up before work
C1 is a connector indicator.......... (BCM connector)

BUT the breaker you speak of is within the "junction block" and can be tested for power at pin 9 of "C2" which is the junction block connector.

This circuit breaker is the power for the coil side of the relay, and the coil gets its ground from pin 22 of teh BCM.........

Maybe you should start a new thread and we can work through this, its probably quite simple and very easy to troubleshoot. its power, switch, Relay, Motor !
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