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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:09 PM   #1
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want to add 2" bb to 4.5" lift asking for experiences/issues

i am tossing around a 2'' bb on top of my 4.5" lift so i will have 6.5". i am asking for experiences and any issues. i sure wish i wouldnt have sold my bb! thanks, ron

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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:19 PM   #2
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You're gonna need a new front DS, if you don't have one already.
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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:45 PM   #3
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You're gonna need a new front DS, if you don't have one already.
ok. i dont have one. can you explain why? what about rear control arms?
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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:50 PM   #4
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do you have the ujoint style or the cv?
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Unread 03-29-2010, 10:57 PM   #5
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You can probably get away with adjustable control arms in the rear, so you can remove your front lowers and put them in the rear. You're going to need long arms up front.

Your front drive shaft will need to be a single/double cardon u joint shaft if it is not already. Anything less than that will not work. If you currently have a cv joint drive shaft, it's probably already bad from your current lift.

You'll need 6.5" sway bar links. I've never heard of the sway bar link drop kit you have in your sig, but if it's anything like the track bar drop kits, it's not beefy enough for this kind of lift, anyways it'll be 2" too short. You'll also of course need 6.5" lift shocks and anything else that's required for a 6.5" kit. Not sure what all you're running right now.
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Unread 03-29-2010, 11:02 PM   #6
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should have went with long arms ron
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Unread 03-29-2010, 11:05 PM   #7
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i use a 2" BB on top of my 4.5" springs

not sure if i would get better performance/flex and whatnot with just 6.5" springs instead of using the 2" spacers though, tossin around the idea of gettin rid of the spacers and just goin all spring
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i use a 2" BB on top of my 4.5" springs

not sure if i would get better performance/flex and whatnot with just 6.5" springs instead of using the 2" spacers though, tossin around the idea of gettin rid of the spacers and just goin all spring
Seems like you probably would since the pucks take up a set amount of space, and if it was 2" extra of spring, it would have that much more flex and compression available. How much of a practical difference that actually makes I've no idea.
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Unread 03-30-2010, 07:38 AM   #9
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do you have the ujoint style or the cv?
it is ujoint. i thought i read w/ujoints i wouldnt have to change. is there any truth to that? ron
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Unread 03-30-2010, 07:40 AM   #10
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i use a 2" BB on top of my 4.5" springs

not sure if i would get better performance/flex and whatnot with just 6.5" springs instead of using the 2" spacers though, tossin around the idea of gettin rid of the spacers and just goin all spring
did you have to do anything additional. such as front drive shaft, trans drop kit, rear control arms, etc....? what about the shocks? ron
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[B]reece[/B] front hitch, [B]warn[/B] winch, [B]elocker [/B]or [B]arb[/B] front selectable locker, [B]bulldog[/B] remote start, [B]hi lift[/B] essential parts kit, 2-[B]hella[/B] driving lights, [B]gerry[/B] can and bracket, stinger bar, wood dash kit, snorkel, washer fluid heater, rear swing tire carrier, finish the skid plates, fender flares, [B]addco [/B]front swaybar[/SIZE]
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Unread 03-30-2010, 07:43 AM   #11
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Longer shocks are needed.

You'll be going through bushings a lot more frequently. You'll get lots of new noises (just a much harsher ride).

You won't know whether you need a new driveshaft until you lift it really. You need to look at spline engagement front and rear to ensure you have enough.

I had to install a SYE to rid myself of vibes in the rear.
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Yup you should be fine if you have ujoints in the front.
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Longer shocks are needed.

You'll be going through bushings a lot more frequently. You'll get lots of new noises (just a much harsher ride).

You won't know whether you need a new driveshaft until you lift it really. You need to look at spline engagement front and rear to ensure you have enough.

I had to install a SYE to rid myself of vibes in the rear.
well, thats all kinda scary. it is a dd. i also make long trips back and forth to montana 3600 mile round trip! that might be tough. ultimately i am trying to keep it very drivable as well as tough for the trail. i am trying to find the right combination of mods to accomplish a close to stock ride and high trail useability. suggestions are accepted. thanks, ron
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[B]reece[/B] front hitch, [B]warn[/B] winch, [B]elocker [/B]or [B]arb[/B] front selectable locker, [B]bulldog[/B] remote start, [B]hi lift[/B] essential parts kit, 2-[B]hella[/B] driving lights, [B]gerry[/B] can and bracket, stinger bar, wood dash kit, snorkel, washer fluid heater, rear swing tire carrier, finish the skid plates, fender flares, [B]addco [/B]front swaybar[/SIZE]
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well, thats all kinda scary. it is a dd. i also make long trips back and forth to montana 3600 mile round trip! that might be tough. ultimately i am trying to keep it very drivable as well as tough for the trail. i am trying to find the right combination of mods to accomplish a close to stock ride and high trail useability. suggestions are accepted. thanks, ron
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Long arms.

So much more durable, so much smoother ride, so much more expensive
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