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View Poll Results: What was the cause/fix for your death wobble?
Tie Rod Ends 28 44.44%
Track Bar Bushings 32 50.79%
LCA Bushings 2 3.17%
Tire Balance 8 12.70%
Alignment 13 20.63%
Tires Themselves 6 9.52%
Power Steering 4 6.35%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 02-02-2011, 01:01 PM   #1
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Exclamation The Ultimate Death Wobble Fix Thread (Phase 2)

As promised, here is the final result...

Death Wobble seems to be a plague that we all fear and can't stand. There are a million threads all over the place about it and for someone who is suffering from it, you will probably spend a lifetime just reading about how to get rid of it.

The purpose of this thread is to help sufferers of DW by giving them a head start in resolving the problem.

In this thread I compiled possible causes of DW:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...e-1-a-1154736/

For those of you who have experienced and solved death wobble, please "vote" in this poll what it was that fixed it for you. The idea here is that the most common/likely causes of DW will become visible in the poll. That way sufferers have a starting point and can then work down the list until they fix their death wobble!

The method is flawed a little because once you vote, you're done and if you get DW again for a different reason, you can't really vote again. Hopefully despite the flaws, the ending result will still work and be beneficial to everyone!

I made the poll multiple choice so that those situations can still be captured.

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Unread 02-02-2011, 01:06 PM   #2
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tj and xj's included? or just wj?
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Unread 02-02-2011, 01:09 PM   #3
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Good question. Because the steering and suspension systems are somewhat related I suppose other Jeeps wouldn't hurt. No leaf spring fronts though.
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Unread 02-02-2011, 01:11 PM   #4
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Haven't wobbled yet with my new tires, we'll see how long that holds up. Drove about 250 miles last weekend and mostly on the highway so that is promising.

For the newcomers, shop I took it to said the tires caused it and it has only happened once.
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Unread 02-03-2011, 06:50 PM   #5
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my 00 grand cherokee had a severe death wobble. i replaced the steering stabilizer and it still had it. i went on ebay and bought all the tierods and balljoints. come to find out it was all a waste of money because i just needed the track bar to be replaced
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Unread 02-03-2011, 09:24 PM   #6
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I got death wobble on my old TJ due to a bent tie rod, I was running 35" MTR's on it and never had issues other than that. After I lifted my WJ and slapped new 32" KM2's I had a slight wobble, adjusted the toe in to 1/8" and it drives great
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Unread 07-09-2011, 10:20 PM   #7
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A few months back I installed a JKS body lift, MML, and 1" spacer. Death wobbles ever since. It started a lot less violent at first..and I got lazy and didn't do an alignment for a couple weeks. When I got the alignment..the toe was way off and they adjusted that which helped a lot..but didn't fix it. I then purchased cam bolts to adjust caster which also helped..but didn't fix it. I do have uneven wear on my tires and suspect they may be contributing. And my shocks are prolly up for replacement too.

Here's my opinion...my jeep was flawless before the lift...I don't care if my tires r worn uneven or any other thing that was the same before the lift. Obviously the general consensus on DW is completely due to geometry and play/slack in the system (due to subpar geometry im assuming).

When i am at lower speeds and turn sharply (riding through my neighborhood) I can feel the slack in my steering, mainly when I hit bumps, potholes, etc...It feels like I should just be able to sneak under the front end and tighten something that is extremely loose but can't find it. That same slack/play at 46-50MPH is obviously what makes a "power-though" zone unless I wanna slow down and try again....
Anyone else's thoughts?
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Unread 07-26-2011, 01:02 AM   #8
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I am fighting the death wobble just now. '02 car stock suspension, no changes, no lift.

So far I have replaced;

Lower track arms
Upper track arms + bushes on axle
Track bar
Shock absobers
Steering damper

Alignment has been checked and set and checked and set again but it still does it.

I can go for days without it and the hit an insignificant bump and it sets the wobble going.

Running out of parts to change!
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Unread 07-26-2011, 05:47 AM   #9
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ksmith, check your ball joints.



i voted track bar bushings, since thats what caused mines
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Unread 07-26-2011, 06:49 AM   #10
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not sure of the value of this poll as DW is rarely just one cause and is usually due to cummulative wear on many components.
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Unread 07-27-2011, 01:52 AM   #11
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I knew I had left something off the list .

Upper and lower ball joints on the steering knuckles done on both sided.

My track bar was shot too.

As someone else said its not just always one part.
Every time I change a part it seems ok for a couple of weeks then its back!




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ksmith, check your ball joints.



i voted track bar bushings, since thats what caused mines
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Unread 07-27-2011, 02:23 AM   #12
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hows the condition of your tires? i know for me, once instance of death wobble was caused by some badly worn out mud terrains, that were so out of balance, it wasn't even funny. once i got a set of new tires, which i really needed and was overdue for, my death wobble went away.

since you're stock, i'm assuming you don't have an adjustable track bar. in my case, my JKS adjustable track bar caused lots of problems whenever the jamb nut would come loose, no matter how hard and often i tightened it. i ended up having the jamb nut tack welded in placed, and that solved that problem of death wobble too.
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Unread 12-28-2011, 05:59 AM   #13
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Hi Guys.

This is a great thread - thanks!!

I am fighting death wobble right now. I just fitted 2 inch spring spacers (as a temporary lift until I can afford 3" IRO) and now I have instant death wobble (never had it before). I have checked for play in all suspension components and the only thing that I could really find was excess play in the TRE on the knuckle end of the drag link. Initially I discounted this as the cause because everywhere else on the internerd I have read about DW nobody has mentioned TREs. This is the first time I have read about it - thanks to this pole I will now change the TRE and hopefully conquor the dreaded DW - then I will vote.

A big thanks from me!!!
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Unread 12-28-2011, 07:05 AM   #14
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I didn't vote, because I agree, it is usually more than one factor. I have had parts go bad without DW, that I had replaced during a bout with DW. Even with all new parts, you could still feal it want to "try". Biggest difference was after toe and castor were adjusted. Waited on doing those til all parts were replaced for the most accurate alignment.
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Unread 12-28-2011, 08:13 AM   #15
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Didn't vote because my cause wasn't up there. Mine was caused by the adjustable trackbar nut shaking itself loose. Put locktite on it and it's gone
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