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Unread 08-27-2014, 01:03 PM   #1
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Is this too risky? Help please

Hey guys, this is my first of many posts. Im 17, and im about to buy my first car. I was originally thinking about getting an old yj, but decided it wouldn't be the most practical daily driver for me. Then the plan was to get an xj in the 99-01 year range, but I ran across this limited grand cherokee.

http://www.haleyhasitforless.com/Use...VA/vd/21766567

If you all could give me your opinions on this car/price I would appreciate. To be honest I look the body style of XJ's so much more but there are so many nice luxurious features in this car that its hard to resist. That leads me to my main question. Is buying a wj like this one with 150k plus miles on it an unwise decision? I know cherokee i6s last forever but what about this 4.7l v8? I appreciate all the helps friends

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Unread 08-27-2014, 01:10 PM   #2
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Here's a link to the PDF of everything that came on it from the factory:

http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/B...GW58N61C641335

Looks like it was spec'd out to the max, higher suspension package, skid plates, top of the line 4WD (Quadradrive), tow package. As far as the mileage goes, maintenance is everything. Are there any records? I would pay for a carfax if it were me. Also looks like it was originally sold in Michigan. Might want to crawl under there and see how much of a rust bucket it is.
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Unread 08-27-2014, 01:15 PM   #3
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Looks like a very nice example. Front hooks, tow package, cargo cover and rear mud mat...

You must go right now and read through the buyer's guide. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...guide-1271979/

If I needed one now ...I'd go get that one and prepare to have the blend doors issue. Crawl under it to see what's leaking if anything.
Again, read that guide so you know what to look for.
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Unread 08-27-2014, 01:36 PM   #4
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A poorly maintained 4.7 at 150k is a time bomb waiting to happen.
Some would argue even if it's fairly maintained there's still a risk for dropped valved seats/ rod bearings .....

Good maintained ones will get 200K-250K without engine issues.

I'm going to run now to dodged the tomatoes thrown at me by 4.7 owners...
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Unread 08-27-2014, 02:16 PM   #5
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A poorly maintained 4.7 at 150k is a time bomb waiting to happen. Some would argue even if it's fairly maintained there's still a risk for dropped valved seats/ rod bearings ..... Good maintained ones will get 200K-250K without engine issues. I'm going to run now to dodged the tomatoes thrown at me by 4.7 owners...
I passed up a 2000 WJ with zero rust and qudradrive in a stripper model because of the mud in the cooling system. The front axle clicked turning sharp. That I could fix. Wasn't taking a chance.
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Unread 08-27-2014, 02:41 PM   #6
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Here's a link to the PDF of everything that came on it from the factory:

http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/B...GW58N61C641335

Looks like it was spec'd out to the max, higher suspension package, skid plates, top of the line 4WD (Quadradrive), tow package. As far as the mileage goes, maintenance is everything. Are there any records? I would pay for a carfax if it were me. Also looks like it was originally sold in Michigan. Might want to crawl under there and see how much of a rust bucket it is.
There's a full history that I can view from their post
http://ebay.vinmanager.com/AutoCheck...7#full-history
Does this suffice or should I buy a carfax?
From what I can tell it hasn't been in any accidents and the only repair I see is "electrical system serviced" no clue what that means... Thanks,
and I don't really know what to look for in terms of rust so I'll probably have it inspected by a specialist before I make a decision.
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Unread 08-27-2014, 02:44 PM   #7
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A poorly maintained 4.7 at 150k is a time bomb waiting to happen.
Some would argue even if it's fairly maintained there's still a risk for dropped valved seats/ rod bearings .....

Good maintained ones will get 200K-250K without engine issues.

I'm going to run now to dodged the tomatoes thrown at me by 4.7 owners...
I don't really know how to tell if its been maintained well. Guess I'll have someone look at it. Are the valved seats/rod bearings expensive to fix? I know nothing lol
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Unread 08-27-2014, 02:46 PM   #8
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One additional question. With the 1 inch up country lift that it has, will I be able to fit 31s? With/without trimming
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Unread 08-27-2014, 04:13 PM   #9
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One additional question. With the 1 inch up country lift that it has, will I be able to fit 31s? With/without trimming
If the springs are original. (they probably are) At that mileage it would probably be around the same height as a factory WJ as the springs sag.

With enough trimming pretty much anything is possible. But if I were you I would get the car first and drive it for a few months to make sure there isn't anything that needs to be fixed right away.

That is unless the suspension and tires are shot. Then just upgrade from there.

Also don't forget u will have a Jeep with a v8. Be prepared to spend lots in gas
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Unread 08-27-2014, 04:51 PM   #10
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I think you need to realize that purchasing any 13 yr. old vehicle with 150k+ miles has some inherent risk in it. I would suspect that the WJ you linked to would have some of the more common issues wrong with it currently, which is more than likely the reason the previous owner decided to sell it. These would be things I would look for in addition to the usual strange noises from the motor, trans shifting properly, suspension noises, etc., when buying a used vehicle:

-Check for codes in the AZC system to ensure it's functioning properly
-Inspect for coolant UNDER the carpet on the passenger side (there's a plastic membrane on the underside of the carpet that prevents it from soaking up through the carpet itself)
-Listen to see if the dash speakers are working correctly,
-Check to ensure all the window switches and window motors work
-Auto dim driver's side mirror functional and not leaking fluid
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Unread 08-27-2014, 07:08 PM   #11
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Also don't forget u will have a Jeep with a v8. Be prepared to spend lots in gas
The 4.0 I6 gets the same mpg, sadly
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Unread 08-27-2014, 10:00 PM   #12
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Well guys I'm sorry to say that I've come to learn why its at such a good price. I talked to a guy at the dealership and apparently the guy who sold it to him had replaced the battery multiple times with a very short period of time and it would drain every time. Its in their chrysler repair unit (idk what its called) and they'll let me know the results when it gets out. So assuming they fix the problem, I imagine the price will go up, bring it out of my budget. Oh well, guess I'll find an xj
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Unread 08-28-2014, 12:15 AM   #13
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If you get an XJ, don't get the 99-01, get anything 91-98 to avoid head problems. The 91-95 actually had the strongest heads. Anything 90 and below won't be HO. XJs have the bullet proof AW4 transmission. The 4L is a hydraulic lifter engine, so no overhead cam and timing never needs to be adjusted.

I own a 91 XJ with 230+ kmi, it runs like a bat and outperforms the WJ by far. Plus XJs are lots of fun.
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If you get an XJ, don't get the 99-01, get anything 91-98 to avoid head problems. The 91-95 actually had the strongest heads. Anything 90 and below won't be HO. XJs have the bullet proof AW4 transmission. The 4L is a hydraulic lifter engine, so no overhead cam and timing never needs to be adjusted. I own a 91 XJ with 230+ kmi, it runs like a bat and outperforms the WJ by far. Plus XJs are lots of fun.
The AW4 is I'm my 4runner. 265,000 miles and still going. Umm engine too.
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Unread 08-28-2014, 06:48 AM   #15
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Time in Michigan & Hawaii? I bet it's a rust bucket under there. The electrical issues could be related to that along with some water intrusion, perhaps even salt water.
Knowing what I do about these things, I still might not be afraid to look at it but if the bottom is full of rust, it ain't worth messing with in the first place.

If not full of rust, I would just add a battery cutoff switch when not running it and slowly, carefully, methodically begin the gremlin chase process.
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