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post #16 of 26 Old 08-11-2014, 02:11 PM Thread Starter
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Holy poo. That seems really, really expensive to me. Go to RockAuto and order the parts yourself. You should be able to do the TRE's (then take it for an alignment), but I'd leave the ball joints to a shop. You should also replace all four ball joints. Won't add much labour wise, and they're not that expensive.
I just don't know what's expensive and whats not? The shop I called today, refereed by a member on the board, wanted 1360.00 for that work using Moog parts. I called another one as well this morning and they wanted 1200.00

Now Iam questioning how my mechanic can really get this done for 700.00

4 Tie Rods and sleeves 350.00 (moog)
2 Lower Ball joints 350.00 (moog parts)

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post #17 of 26 Old 08-11-2014, 02:32 PM
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Round and round we go. Both other shops are WAY too much!
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post #18 of 26 Old 08-11-2014, 03:23 PM
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RockAuto prices (in CAD)

MOOG front uppers are $16 a piece, front lowers are $48 a piece.
MOOG Pitman Arm to Steering Arm sleeve $23, Steering Arm To Steering Arm $29
MOOG Front Left Inner tie rod $27, Front Left Outer $27, Right Outer (Pitman Arm To Steering Arm) $27, Right Outer (Steering Arm To Steering Arm) $27.

That's $288 total (including upper ball joints, $256 without). My mechanic quoted me 3hrs labor to replace 4 ball joints and one TRE, so factor in (I'm guessing) another 2hrs for the rest of the tie rod work.

What's the hourly rate that he charges? At $70 an hour, that's $350, plus $256 would be $606 for a grand total, so I guess he's not that far off. I'm lucky and only pay $40 an hour for labor.


For the little extra it will cost, you really should replace the upper ball joints as well.

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post #19 of 26 Old 08-11-2014, 04:35 PM
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In US dollars the Moog TREs are in the $45 range. Sleeves are $40 or so. I purchased everything online at Advance Auto and used a 30% discount code. The discount codes are out there...

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post #20 of 26 Old 08-15-2014, 02:16 PM
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MOOG Pitman Arm to Steering Arm sleeve $23, Steering Arm To Steering Arm $29
MOOG Front Left Inner tie rod $27, Front Left Outer $27, Right Outer (Pitman Arm To Steering Arm) $27, Right Outer (Steering Arm To Steering Arm) $27.

really easy job. DIY four bolts! you will be sorry if u pay a shop.
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post #21 of 26 Old 08-15-2014, 10:54 PM
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For what's involved in replacing tie rods, I think that it is too much. At Amazon, all four tie rods for a WJ, Moog's, are $107.42 and both sleeves are $57.98. If you have Amazon Prime, they ship for free. That's $165.40 for good parts and only $107.42 if you want to battle with getting the old tie rods off of the old sleeves....... get some PB Blaster!

If you don't have the tools, I think that most parts stores will loan them to you if you leave a deposit. It really isn't difficult, it's not complicated at all. There's plenty of YouTube videos if you've never done anything like it before.

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3473 $28.99
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3475 $25.80
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1453 Sleeve $25.99
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post #22 of 26 Old 08-16-2014, 12:09 AM
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i just bought 4 tie rods, the 2 sleeves (which are not needed) a wix fuel filter, and all 8 coil spring isolators for $230 shipped
from rock auto.
and a "professional" alignment for $250... you guys are getting raped! oh wait its a 4 wheel alignment right..... on a solid axle rear?
no its only a front end alignment!!!! ONLY if you have adj rear control arms that might not be adjusted straight.....
i get mine done a a cooper tire dealer, i do not buy tires from him. i get alignments only. it takes a lil longer but i go out back talk to the kid who's doing the work. tell him what i want, incudling my castor angle. offer help on loosening up control arms. the answer is always "no" and i walk out under $100. actually it was $75 last one.
personally i wouldn't spend 400 for tie rods installed. its just soo easy!!!
ball joints are a pain as you need to strip a lot off the front end and then have a press, factor in the wj will be down for awhile. id do the tie rods myself and then have the ball joints done THEN get an alignment at a place of my choice.
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post #23 of 26 Old 08-16-2014, 08:34 AM
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For what's involved in replacing tie rods, I think that it is too much. At Amazon, all four tie rods for a WJ, Moog's, are $107.42 and both sleeves are $57.98. If you have Amazon Prime, they ship for free. That's $165.40 for good parts and only $107.42 if you want to battle with getting the old tie rods off of the old sleeves....... get some PB Blaster!

If you don't have the tools, I think that most parts stores will loan them to you if you leave a deposit. It really isn't difficult, it's not complicated at all. There's plenty of YouTube videos if you've never done anything like it before.

3472 $26.27
3473 $28.99
3474 $26.36
3475 $25.80
1452 Sleeve $31.99
1453 Sleeve $25.99
Those are great prices for Moogs on Amazon. If buying via Advanced Auto online, search for discount codes first.... there's one for 30% off. It's a one time deal so use/buy wisely. Also after you find the discount code, signup to MrRebates and use their link to AA to get 6% back.

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post #24 of 26 Old 08-16-2014, 11:40 AM
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Quick question on the ball joints. If I were to do them myself what type would I get for the lower? What brand is the one that doesn't need greasing, just like oem. I can't remember. Thanks!

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post #25 of 26 Old 08-19-2014, 03:15 PM Thread Starter
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840.00 for all four ball joints and Tie rods and Sleeves

Still to much?
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post #26 of 26 Old 08-19-2014, 04:01 PM
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That's less ($800) than my shop here wanted. I had no idea what they were going to use for parts. Did it myself and I'm an idiot. Search my threads for my doing it. It is a pain but it CAN be done alone with a vice and pipe wrench +basic tools.


Had to source it out, that person offering $700 with Moog parts is the way I'd go. I'd find an alignment shop somewhere else for less than $100

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