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post #1 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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Is there away to get HID lights without HID kit?

I tried searching for the answer but can't seem to find. Is there any HID headlights I can buy without installing the kit?

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post #2 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 06:38 PM
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is this a trick question?

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You can buy any HIDs without installing the kit by just keeping them in the box.

On a serious note...you will never get a true HID without installing an actual HID kit with the bulbs and ballasts. The kits for WJs are easy to install since they have separate bulbs for high beams. You don't need a wiring harness. Just need the bulbs and ballasts. Real easy plug and play. Check out DDMtuning.com. Their kits are cheap and the ballasts have lifetime warranties. I've installed 12+ of their kits.

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Would you get the 55watt one?
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post #5 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 07:20 PM Thread Starter
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I was told by a friend that has a GC that that is what he did, that he didn't install a kit, and I thought you needed the kit. He told me to get 9006, no xs or anything
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post #6 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 08:19 PM
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So you just want white bulbs? Buy silverstars?

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post #7 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
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So you just want white bulbs? Buy silverstars?
That's what I thought he has but he has a blue tint with his
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HIR bulbs: brighter output, not HID ballast to install.
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post #9 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 09:12 PM
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Is there any HID headlights I can buy without installing the kit?
No. Also, you should know that putting HID's into the stock headlight is kind of a bush league move. HIDs need proper projectors, without them you will just be blinding your fellow drivers.

If you just want a simple bulb upgrade, go with HIR bulbs. They are simple, plug and play, a great improvement over standard 9006 bulbs. Other drivers will be thankful for it.

If you want to read a little bit more about HID's, I suggest you read this thread.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...t-hid-1501197/

If you want to read more about HIRs, there is a good thread here.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...012-a-1332345/
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No. Also, you should know that putting HID's into the stock headlight is kind of a bush league move. HIDs need proper projectors, without them you will just be blinding your fellow drivers.

If you just want a simple bulb upgrade, go with HIR bulbs. They are simple, plug and play, a great improvement over standard 9006 bulbs. Other drivers will be thankful for it.

If you want to read a little bit more about HID's, I suggest you read this thread.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...t-hid-1501197/

If you want to read more about HIRs, there is a good thread here.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...012-a-1332345/
Do they have HIR ones with the blue tint? Because he has them without the projectors stock jeep head light with blue tint, it just doesn't look as bright as most HID. But that helped a lot! Thanks!
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No, the HIR's don't come in a blue tint.

Are you just looking to get any sort of headlight with a blue tint, or what?
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post #12 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
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No I'm looking for HIDs but he's telling me there HIDs which I didn't believe you could have them without a kit
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post #13 of 16 Old 04-05-2013, 11:01 PM
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At the minimum, hid's require a ballast.

I'm not sure what 'hid' bulbs he is talking about.
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post #14 of 16 Old 04-06-2013, 12:12 AM
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There's Xenon halogen bulbs, but they're crap, and in wet weather, don't give any light on the road. Also very prone to burning out in a matter of weeks if they get oil from your fingers or such on them. Pure waste of money. I've tried all different kinds of bulbs to get the best output. For halogen, HIR's are the best, seconded by silverstars. If you want better, HID's is the way to go though, but the only proper way is doing a retrofit. There are no pre-made housings for the WJ made for HID's that anyone has come out with. There's only direct replacement halogen, or halogen projector aftermarkets available.

Only proper HID's are HID's. They produce 3-10x the light output of halogens and require a ballast and igniter setup to function. Although cheaper 'kits' ballast/igniter work ok, cheaper bulbs aren't as good as buying a good quality bulb, which these cheap kits don't come with. As well due to how they produce and emit light, they need HID projectors to properly focus and emit glare which is dangerous to other drivers as it blinds them. The way the sheild works, it emits a bit of blue colour or 'flicker' which is what HID's are known for. Proper kelvin rating for HID's for best light output should be 4300k or 5000k. 6000k and above you start to lose light output. 10,000 or 12,000 give purple which are useless for light output. As the kelvin ratings go up, they give a more bluish cast, but as stated, at the cost of light ouput. As well there's no real need to go to a 55w HID. 35w HID's in proper projectors will give you more than enough light.

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post #15 of 16 Old 04-06-2013, 12:40 AM
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I figured there was some type of xenon halogen bulb, but it just sounds like bad technology.
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