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Unread 11-18-2012, 09:12 AM   #46
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^^^Not the highest security solution, i used a idatalink skim bypass module with my Vioer install, super easy, wire it up sgsinst your SKIM module, when you program it with your key, it learned/copy the skim signal, after that when remote started it copy and send out that exact signal, works great and doesnt cost to much.
There Are several other skim bypass modules out there also, no need for getho skim bypass key hidden somewhere trick thingy.

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Unread 11-19-2012, 12:06 PM   #47
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Going to get this set up but when I bought my jeep it never came with a key fob. It's a limited so I know it had one. Do you have to have the jeep key fob for the avital one to learn the freq?
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Unread 12-04-2012, 06:39 PM   #48
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^^^Not the highest security solution, i used a idatalink skim bypass module with my Vioer install, super easy, wire it up sgsinst your SKIM module, when you program it with your key, it learned/copy the skim signal, after that when remote started it copy and send out that exact signal, works great and doesnt cost to much.
There Are several other skim bypass modules out there also, no need for getho skim bypass key hidden somewhere trick thingy.
yeah but the ghetto way is FREE.... and less complicated wiring I was just asking did anyone do it yet?
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Unread 12-04-2012, 06:41 PM   #49
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Sounds easy enough and some good pictures. The nest of wires always makes me cringe.
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Unread 12-04-2012, 06:42 PM   #50
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yeah but the ghetto way is FREE.... and less complicated wiring I was just asking did anyone do it yet?
Its not recomended, just saying,
maybe why not many did it,
a bypass module is like 50 or something, it only have a couple of wires,
Its all up to you.
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Unread 01-09-2013, 09:06 AM   #51
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has anyone installed one of these systems and used their factory key left inside the dash area to defeat the programmed key necessity? There are numerous threads where people do that to avoid having to pay for the dealer cost of programming keys as well as the much lower cost of standard key blanks? I realize that this move is not good if you are concerned about security.
Slightly off-topic, but where have you had key blanks cut without having it reprogrammed? A few of the local places around me won't touch keys w/ a transponder in them.
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Unread 01-09-2013, 10:05 AM   #52
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Slightly off-topic, but where have you had key blanks cut without having it reprogrammed? A few of the local places around me won't touch keys w/ a transponder in them.
Any Walmart will do it. They don't care, it's just a key to them.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 07:49 PM   #53
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Any Walmart will do it. They don't care, it's just a key to them.
I tried it at my local walmart and they said they couldnt. I told them I just wanted it to unlock my doors in emergency as I only have one key.
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Unread 01-29-2013, 09:56 PM   #54
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Follow up... It's been a little over a year since I installed my Avital remote start system, and the entire setup has been working flawlessly! No problems, or issues whatsoever!
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Unread 02-03-2013, 09:34 AM   #55
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just ordered mine today. has anyone else here installed this system? I installed a viper alarm/remote start in my durango a few years ago and didn't use the xpress kit. what a pain in the ***. this looks so much easier with a lot less wires.
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Unread 02-03-2013, 06:07 PM   #56
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just ordered mine today. has anyone else here installed this system? I installed a viper alarm/remote start in my durango a few years ago and didn't use the xpress kit. what a pain in the ***. this looks so much easier with a lot less wires.
I started install today,but will have to finish tomorrow since I need a ground connector. Fairly easy. Only thing I was concerned about was the length of antenna but I just ended up taking the driver door pilllar cover off and mounted to pillar. I ended up have like 2 ft of extra wire which I just rolled up and zip tied it. The other concern is if the on/off toggle switch should be installed doesnt seem relevant so well see.

This is a great write up, easier than manufacturer.
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Unread 02-04-2013, 07:08 PM   #57
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I couldn't get my Jeep to work with this for some reason so I ended up W2W method as outlined here:
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...~130244#649534
It was only a few extra wires:

This info will be specific for the 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Avital 4103. Your 4103
might be a newer model than the shown connector listing but the wire name and color will be
the same.

Avital Jeep or DBALL ( or Both )
H1/1 LIGHT GREEN/BLACK FACTORY ALARM DISARM N.U. (Not Used)
H1/2 GREEN/WHITE FACTORY REARM N.U.
H1/3 YELLOW (+) IGNITION OUT (TO ALARM) N.U.
H1/4 WHITE/BLUE (-) ACTIVATION INPUT N.U.
H1/5 ORANGE (-) GROUND WHEN LOCKED N.U.
H1/6 BROWN (-) HORN OUTPUT Optional Gray/Orange @ Horn Switch
H1/7 RED/WHITE (-) TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT N.U.
H1/8 BLACK GROUND Chassis Ground
H1/9 WHITE (+/-) LIGHT FLASH ***Set to (+)*** DBALL 10 Pin, Pink/white

1 BLUE STATUS OUTPUT DBALL 10 Pin, Blue/White
2 ORANGE (-) ACCESSORY OUTPUT N.U.
3 PURPLE (-) STARTER OUTPUT N.U.
4 PINK (-) STARTER OUTPUT N.U.


1 PINK (+) (30 AMP) IGNITION CIRCUIT Dark Blue @ Ignition Harness & DBALL 10 Pin, Pink
2 PURPLE (+) (30 AMP) STARTER CIRCUIT Yellow @ Ignition Harness & DBALL 10 Pin, Violet
3 ORANGE (+) (30 AMP) ACCESSORY CIRCUIT Red/Black @ Ignition Harness
4 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12 INPUT Red @ Ignition Harness
5 PINK/WHITE (+) PROGRAMMED FOR ACCESSORY Black/Orange @ Ignition Harness
6 RED (+) (30A) HIGH CURRENT 12V INPUT Pink/Black @ Ignition Harness

1 BLUE (-) UNLOCK OUTPUT DBALL 10 Pin, Blue
2 EMPTY NOT USED
3 GREEN (-) LOCK OUTPUT DBALL 10 Pin, Green

H2/1 BLACK/WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT Chassis Ground
H2/2 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE DBALL 12 Pin, Violet/White
H2/3 BROWN (+) BRAKE SWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE DBALL 12 Pin, Gray
H2/4 GRAY (-) HOOD PINSWITCH SHUTDOWN WIRE Hood Pin Switch
H2/5 BLUE/WHITE (-) 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOG OUT N.U.

DBALL
14 Pin
Violet/Yellow Jeep OBD2 Pin 2
Yellow Jeep Sentry Module Pin 3, Dark Blue/White, Car Side
Orange/Yellow Jeep Sentry Module Pin 3, Dark Blue/White, Connector side
Red Jeep Pink/Black @ Ignition Harness
Black Jeep Chassis Ground

12 Pin
Violet/Green & Violet Brown Jeep Headlight Switch Connector, Pin 11, Yellow

The Avital has no use for the Door and Trunk Status Triggers.
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Unread 02-04-2013, 08:15 PM   #58
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What is W2W?

I just ordered an Avital 5303. Most of it should be the same with the addition of the security features which I may or may not use. I got a great deal on it and it has an LCD 2-way remote
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Unread 02-04-2013, 09:56 PM   #59
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What is W2W?

I just ordered an Avital 5303. Most of it should be the same with the addition of the security features which I may or may not use. I got a great deal on it and it has an LCD 2-way remote
Wire 2 wire
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Unread 02-04-2013, 11:54 PM   #60
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I didn't read through four pages... Quick question, would an aftermarket key FOB still work with my memory seats? My remote sets the memory seat to position 1, and the other remote sets the memory seat to position 2 for my wife. I read that I can buy a remote start kit and use my factory remotes, I was just wondering about the new FOB's. Thanks.
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