Rear Upper Control Arm-- Bushings???? - JeepForum.com

View Poll Results: Best Brand of bushings with longest life.
Mopar 17 58.62%
Dorman 4 13.79%
Omix 0 0%
Crown 2 6.90%
Other- Please post other options. 6 20.69%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 03:28 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
Wj Rear Upper Control Arm-- Bushings????

Need to change out my Rear Upper Control Arm bushings, on my 2000 WJ AGAIN For the forth time. Looking for experiences and life expectancies with different brands of bushings. Mopar, Dorman, Crown "I know are crap", and others I can't think of. Btw I hate this control arm, but at stock height there isn't any options to change it out, that I have seen.

darule336 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 03:56 PM
ChrisHager
Administrator
 
ChrisHager's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Springfield
Posts: 8,743
Garage
I don't have a clue on what brand for control arm bushings but I'm curious as to why you've gone through 4 sets. Do you torque the bolts down with the vehicle sitting on its own weight?

~Chris
His: 2004 WJ - OME HD 'Kolak' Lift -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

His: 1979 J-10 - 3" on 33s -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

His: 2009 Expedition
His: 1978 F250 Custom -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Hers: 2000 TJ
Hers: 2010 Jetta


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
"You can't recycle tartar sauce."
ChrisHager is offline  
post #3 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 05:28 PM
nickblack
Registered User
1999 WJ 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: bridgewater
Posts: 739
You have to be doing something wrong. Just changed mine after 13 years and 150k miles.
nickblack is offline  
post #4 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 05:48 PM
nor7cal7
Registered User
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 209
I torqued mine with the vehicle in the air, and they were toast after 20k. Those were mopars. I now have dormans, torqued them done with the rig on the ground. Lasted 5k so far so good

"Don't tread on me!"
nor7cal7 is offline  
post #5 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 07:18 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
Honestly I think it's less of doing something wrong, than it is of what's causing it.
Only reason I replace the factory ones was the ball joint was shot. So order crown balljoint and crown bushings from quadratec. They tend to not shot the brand, and I had no preference at the time. I had a shop do the repair. Drove 1000 miles from mn to co and the balljoint went bad and the bushings were starting to tear and should signs of wear.
Now I am in Breckenridge co shop rates double. Here's where I started researching heavily. Now I am assuming the shop screwed up. So I call quadratec, good customer service btw, told them my issue warranted the ball joint np, the bushings on the other hand were back ordered. So got a massive discount on a full control arm with bushings installed, over nighted for free. Had a different shop
Install these. After that install I refused to look at the bushings for close to a year. Said if had to change them again I would get rid of the truck. But after moved back to mn, hauling a trailer of stuff, these were toast. Completely, the core was free floating.
At some point during this crown sent me replacement bushings for the warranted set. Which I just installed and now they themselves have started to tear in less than 500 miles of on road driving.


Now I took my time installing them. Torque at ride height.
darule336 is offline  
post #6 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 07:20 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
Now one thing I did think about but haven't seen any clarification is the orientation of the bushing. Pictures would be helpful on this one.
darule336 is offline  
post #7 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 08:05 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
Heres what it looked like last weekend.
Attached Thumbnails
image-2281001362.jpg  
darule336 is offline  
post #8 of 28 Old 02-03-2012, 08:17 PM
CarlJH
Registered User
2003 WJ 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 513
I think you need to look at the lower arms as well, if the axle is out of line it will put uneven torque on the a frame. Get a full laser alignment done to make sure the axles aren't out of line with each other
CarlJH is offline  
post #9 of 28 Old 02-09-2012, 04:33 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
I think I might have goofed when I installed those bushings. But I am not 100% certain yet. Does anyone know which direction the bushings should go. Orientation wise, 0 deg or 90 degree turn if that makes sense.

I am going to link to another thread vs stealing his pic, I need to take a picture.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...issue-1062933/

The bushing on the right how would you guys orient it, cause if you look at the middle the rubber is not uniform it extends out on only 2 sides. Should those sides be on the left and right. or back and front.


I hope this makes sense.
darule336 is offline  
post #10 of 28 Old 02-10-2012, 07:57 AM
3JsWJ
Registered User
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Moon Twp
Posts: 291
The webbing should be on the left and right. That will allow the center post to flex front to back.

04 WJ-4.7, 242HD, JK D44, JK HP30, 4" IRO, LSR Bumper, Warn M8000, 33" MTZ
03 WJ-SOLD
3JsWJ is offline  
post #11 of 28 Old 02-10-2012, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
I am glad I made sense to someone, Thank you. That was one thing I was going to verify before I swapped them out. To bad I forgot since this is such an easy repair.
darule336 is offline  
post #12 of 28 Old 02-11-2012, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
So I got my alignment checked,
Attached Thumbnails
image-3893518695.jpg   image-3281398541.jpg  
darule336 is offline  
post #13 of 28 Old 05-18-2012, 03:12 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
Deleted my other thread so bumping this one.
darule336 is offline  
post #14 of 28 Old 05-18-2012, 03:16 PM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
Trying to confirm which way the webbing of the bushings go.
Left to right
Front to back
Or somewhere between
darule336 is offline  
post #15 of 28 Old 05-20-2012, 02:57 AM Thread Starter
darule336
Registered User
2000 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MN
Posts: 146
If I ever have to do this repair again, well it's just not going to happen.

The positives
Repair is done, I hope the mopar bushings last. 4th repair.
The bigger clunks are gone, but still had a fast pace rattle. So went around tightened up the shock bolts, then the sway bar links. And one snapped with very little force. Broke it after the dealership closed, and it's a "special" bolt. I looked for some alternative bolt option.but it has a small bolt section and a big shank, so out of luck till Monday if the dealership has it.
Meanwhile I have one link hooked up, but as it turns out, that bolt was making a lot of noise. So less noise and still drives better than before even with out it.

Overall replacing the control arm bushings sucked. I will not do it again. I won't pay to have it done again.
If a dealership will warranty their parts and labor. Let the deal with it, pay the extra money. This job sucks.

Crown bushings are terrible, crowns control arm with the bushings instill is also terrible.
darule336 is offline  
Reply

Tags
bushing , bushings , control arm , rear upper control arm , rear upper control arms

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
How Hard To Replace Rear Upper Control Arm Bushings jtsjeep99 WJ Grand Cherokee Forum 61 05-10-2015 08:45 AM
rear upper control arm bushings dont last dgroff WJ Grand Cherokee Forum 10 07-21-2014 12:30 AM
Second set of rear upper control arm bushings mattmc74 WJ Grand Cherokee Forum 7 05-31-2011 06:56 PM
Upper control arm bushings, front and rear sinbad85 WJ Grand Cherokee Forum 5 02-09-2011 03:48 PM
WJ Rear Upper Control Arm Bushings Bubba3200 WJ Grand Cherokee Forum 27 10-17-2010 07:55 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome