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post #1 of 18 Old 07-20-2010, 01:29 AM Thread Starter
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quick DW advice

I went out today and explored some new land they cleared out for a house. Flexed around a little bit but did seem to get high centered once in mud. Aft er that about a hour later i tried driving on the interstate and nearly lost control and went off the DW was so bad. I could barely make it the 5 miles home. I would just violently shake till I slowed down enouh for it to stop. I added OME HD coils and mx-6's a month ago and everythings been great till now. My question is I know A steering stabilizer will help alot, but is could this be the cause of the sudden dramatic change? Is there anything else I should check first? The tires look good, just the stock 245/70/16. Most of the bushings i can see seem ok but I couldnt inspect to close. Im moving to colorado on aug 18th so im under a tight schedule.

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post #2 of 18 Old 07-20-2010, 01:31 AM
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check the track bar.

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what about mud on the inside of the rims?

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TREs?

and an SS won't help if your running stock tires. Your stock SS is fine for that

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post #5 of 18 Old 07-20-2010, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
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Ok i wasnt sure if I blew out the SS somehow offroad and thats what caused it. I got a car wash after I got off the interstate the first few times It happened on the interstate and It still went about 5 or 6 times on the way home.
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The steering stabilizer cannot cause DW. In reality, you dont even need a steering stabilizer. It is just a shock to make your steering feel smoother. Just like you dont really need shocks since the springs are what hold the jeep up. But without them, it would make for a hell of a rough ride.

Check your tie rod ends (all 4) and your track bar. Do you still have the stock track bar?

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post #7 of 18 Old 07-20-2010, 01:38 PM Thread Starter
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Yes still Using the stock track bar. I got under her today with a power washer and mader sure there was not left over mud. Took it for a spin and it did it twice in a 50 mile drive so its at least semi driveable. Im guessing tie rods will be the next to check out. Any tip or suggestions?
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Check the track bar and TRE's, possibly even a bent rim?

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post #9 of 18 Old 07-20-2010, 06:10 PM Thread Starter
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checked the track bar. and it seems to wiggle on the passenger knuckle side. Is thois correct?. I dont think it is so im going to go take the cotter pin out and try to tighten it. Checked the tie rod and it seemed to be super secure. Other then that im starting to get lost.
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checked the track bar. and it seems to wiggle on the passenger knuckle side. Is thois correct?. I dont think it is so im going to go take the cotter pin out and try to tighten it. Checked the tie rod and it seemed to be super secure. Other then that im starting to get lost.
I really hope you mean drag link. Your track bar goes from the frame on the drivers side and mounts to the axle on the passenger side. There better not be any cotter pins on that and it better not wiggle at all.

The drag link should have some rotational play, but if you can move it left-right or up-down, that is bad.

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I checked the trac bar. One castle nut was loose so I tightened it. Now theres no side to side movment it just rotates along the join. Is there anything else I should check for on it. And how should I go about testing the TRES
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I was checking the bar that seems to come off of the idler arm? Sorry iv very confussed under SFA vehicals. Im used to lowered imports
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now that I got whats what under control I got back underthere and check the trackbar. No luck, seemed very solid in every direction.
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Are the TRES the joints that connect the drag link to the passenger knuckle if so Im thinking this may be bad.
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yes, well technically thats a drag link end but same thing. you have 4 of them the drag link connects to the passenger nuckle and the steering box, the tie rod connects to the drivers side nuckel and the lower part of the drag link, if any of those are bad, you could get DW, remember rotational play is normal anything else is not.

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