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Unread 09-17-2013, 08:18 PM   #1
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Need help from you auto-body guys. These rock hard amber spots are completely covering the front of the Jeep, as well as my windshield and a-pillars. The only way it came off the windshield was with a razor blade and scraping.

I've tried the following to remove it from my paint, headlights, and chrome grill but none of it's worked: bug/tar remover, clay bar, goo gone, graffiti remover, wd-40, and acetone...

It's definitely something I drove through as it's not on top of the hood or roof like tree sap would be.

Any ideas would be appreciated.. I took it to a local paint guy who did my bumper... the only thing he has left to try is kerosene and buffing.. he's worried about burning through the clear coat though when buffing. Likewise I'm concerned about tearing up my new headlights and having them haze on me already...



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Unread 09-18-2013, 09:45 AM   #2
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The first thing I would do is get a sample from it and have a lab analyze it in order to find out what it is. Then you can find what works for that specific substance.

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Unread 09-18-2013, 01:11 PM   #3
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The first thing I would do is get a sample from it and have a lab analyze it in order to find out what it is. Then you can find what works for that specific substance.

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A couple problems with that is I can't get any off to get a sample... and then I doubt it would be cost effective...

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Unread 09-18-2013, 01:19 PM   #4
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Its rust caused by brake dust particles sticking to your paint.

You will need to clay bar the entire vehicle to remove the small specks of metallic material from the paint surface, then remove the rust stains with a rubbing/cutting compound.
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Unread 09-18-2013, 01:20 PM   #5
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Its rust caused by brake dust particles sticking to your paint.
Including on the windshield? It looks more like he drove through some sort of paint-ish stuff...
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Your symptoms sounds just like what it does when it's not doing what it should because of how it is.
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Unread 09-18-2013, 01:30 PM   #6
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Including on the windshield? It looks more like he drove through some sort of paint-ish stuff...
Here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=rail...&bih=216&dpr=1

https://www.google.com/#q=rail+dust+on+cars

http://www.carwash.com/articles/rail...-its-removal-2

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...6733-Rail-Dust

They do make some chemicals just for removing this stuff, which may be an option if you oppose having your paint buffed out.
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Hmmmmm. Very interesting. I didn't realize it would embed in glass.
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Hmmmmm. Very interesting. I didn't realize it would embed in glass.
I dunno, I guess it's possible, however looking at the condition of the rest of the paint the OP posted, it could be something else. I know here in the summer they coat the roads with something called 'slurry seal' as a cheap way to resurface them. There's been times I've driven past the trucks applying it and had overspray get on my glass that darkens and hardens in a couple hours.
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Clay bar and rub like hell
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Clay bar and rub like hell
The clay bar will remove the brake dust particle that's causing the rust, but likely won't remove the rust stain itself. In a situation like this I would more surface lubricant than normal just to ensure the removed particles stay suspended and don't cause anymore damage to the clear.

If the OP is lucky and it's just clear coat stains (no deep damage to the clear itself) a good quality car wash soap and a wash mitt should remove the stains with a little elbow grease. Otherwise a buffer, some light cut compound and a light cut buffer pad would clean it right up.
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Look into a product called TRIX made by carpro. It's an iron and tar remover.

Spray it onto your paint when it's clean and dry. Rub it in with a soft wash mitt and let it dwell for a few minutes then rinse off. Might have to repeat this process a few times. Then try the claybar again afterwards to get any of that last stubborn crud off.
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I've tried clay bar with the Meguiar's kit. I worked on a small 2"x2" section for about 10 minutes (folding and kneeding the clay often and using lots of the spray) and only managed to scratch the paint, meanwhile none of the crap came off...
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is there anyway I can test to make sure it's rail dust before I order these chemicals? I swear the bigger spots look almost like amber.. not so much rust? Also would it adhere on my headlights and grill the same as paint?
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Looking at some of the bigger spots closer it almost looks translucent... like the tree sap from Jurassic Park... or like hwen a can of pop sprays everywhere and then dries... Would rail dust look that way?
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Unread 09-19-2013, 03:27 AM   #15
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Not sure how you can tell if its rail dust.

But like I said TRIX is a tar and iron remover. So if it is tree sap it should be able to remove that as well.
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