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Unread 11-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #1
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P0051 Oxygen Sensor help?!!

Hi guys,

Recently i bought another WJ, it is 03 Overland.

Am having the check engine light on it and the car idles rough. So I did the key trick and got P0051 which indicates short circuit in the oxygen sensor upstream of the cat at the passenger side. So before I start throwing money on a new sensor I would like to check my wiring harness to be sure it is not shorted, but unfortunately I don't have an access to the harness part which is behind the valve cover, so am thinking to unplug the harness from the O2 sensor and use my ohmmeter to check any short circuit, so any body can help me between which wires (which color) at the harness side shall I measure the resistance andl NOT to get 0.00 to be sure that my harness is not shorted.

I have the usual four O2 sensors set up

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Unread 11-08-2013, 01:26 AM   #2
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Check out this PDF, it should have all of the wiring diagrams you'll need: http://wagoneers.com/WJ/tech/WIRING/wj-wiring.pdf
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Check out this PDF, it should have all of the wiring diagrams you'll need: http://wagoneers.com/WJ/tech/WIRING/wj-wiring.pdf
Thanks a lot, am downloading it now and I will have a look at it.

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here is the diagnostic flow chart for o2 sensor failures.
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See the attached pinout diagram for the connector. With the key OFF, a zero resistance between pins 1 and 2 (OR/DG and BR/WT wires) would indicate a short. With the key ON, and no short, the battery voltage will exist between those two pins (and wires).
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here is the diagnostic flow chart for o2 sensor failures.
Sorry but seems I can't find the chart.

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See the attached pinout diagram for the connector. With the key OFF, a zero resistance between pins 1 and 2 (OR/DG and BR/WT wires) would indicate a short. With the key ON, and no short, the battery voltage will exist between those two pins (and wires).
Believe it or not, I was waiting for your feedback as I saw your good responses about O2 issues here and on other forums, loool.

I measured the impedance between all of pins, and all of them measured 1 which means no short condition in the harness, on the other hand I measured the impedance at the O2 sensor terminal between all pins taking all the possibilities but all measured one, which means there is no continuity, so at this point am confused, both the harness and the O2 sensor showed no shorted condition but my code says the opposite, so shall I conclude that my O2 sensor is faulty and get new one from Kolak?
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It is very probable that the heater in the O2 sensor does not short until it (and the sensor itself) gets hot. The usual fix for the P0051 is replacement of the O2 sensor.

If you want to play around with it a little more, you could first unplug the sensor, then erase the codes, and finally start the engine. This would definitely cause some O2 sensor codes, but probably not the P0051.
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It is very probable that the heater in the O2 sensor does not short until it (and the sensor itself) gets hot. The usual fix for the P0051 is replacement of the O2 sensor.

If you want to play around with it a little more, you could first unplug the sensor, then erase the codes, and finally start the engine. This would definitely cause some O2 sensor codes, but probably not the P0051.
So an update here.

You were right, and looks like my 4 O2 sensors are out. It is really rare to get all of them out together, but this WJ is new for me, bought it less than two months ago, so probably they were out one by one and the PO never changed any of them, so by the time I got the Jeep the 4 of them were out. I changed one of them only and now it idles much better, I changed the one upstream on the passenger side, but I was unlucky and got the one upstream on the driver side which has shorter wire, so I had to splice the new O2 sensor wire and extend it. I disconnected the battery after plugging the new O2 sensor to clear the codes, then put it back again and started up and drove it for 100 miles, so far so good and no check engine yet. The next three O2 sensors I will order the Denso ones which are exactly the same as the Mopar sensor, actually the Mopar sensor is Denso.

Then I have to check my cat. converter because usually they say the downstream O2 sensors indicate the life time of the cat. converter.
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