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Unread 12-20-2012, 05:09 PM   #1
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No Reverse Lights

Well my reverse lights were not working so I thought maybe I had the socket problem that is common. I purchased an aftermarket set of tail lights assembly's and just installed them but I still have no revers lights. The bulbs checked out fine.

I think I have read on here somewhere about a solenoid or possible neutral safety switch that can cause the reverse lights not to work. Any direction would be great.

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Unread 12-20-2012, 06:07 PM   #2
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I'm on moblie so can't see your jeep details.
If I remember correctly the 4.0 has reverse switch at gear shift lever but the 4.7 the switch is part of the transmission
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Unread 12-20-2012, 09:48 PM   #3
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42re switch is on the drivers side of the transmission body right behind the linkage and cooler lines. It's a 3 wire plug. The 45/545rfe has in inside the trans up above the valve body if I'm not mistaken. It needs a pan and fluid drop either way.

Sent from inside my 4.0.
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Unread 12-20-2012, 11:17 PM   #4
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I've made a thread on this and got no reply, did a search, still nothing. My reverse lights work about a third of the time. Not sure what causes it.
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Unread 12-21-2012, 07:42 AM   #5
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42re switch is on the drivers side of the transmission body right behind the linkage and cooler lines. It's a 3 wire plug. The 45/545rfe has in inside the trans up above the valve body if I'm not mistaken. It needs a pan and fluid drop either way.

Sent from inside my 4.0.
This is what I was remembering. So, I assume the "switch" that needs to be replaced is the Transmission Range Sensor (TRS) This is big bucks according to this post:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...tions-1249046/

Does anyone know if there is a wire coming out of the transmission that I could test to make sure I don't just have a problem in the wiring between the transmission and reverse light socket?
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Unread 12-26-2012, 10:09 AM   #6
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Update:

Tested the plug at the trailer hitch and I am not getting a reverse light there either.

I talked to my mechanic and he seems to think there is a Neutrals Safety Switch on the outside of the transmission. I called a parts store and they have one for $12.99. Gonna pick one of those up tonight and try that.
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Unread 02-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #7
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Any luck? It seems that all of these threads end without any resolution posted.

My wife's '04 Laredo 4.7 has the same reverse light issues.

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Unread 02-05-2013, 08:40 AM   #8
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I haven't tried the Neutral Safety Switch yet. I have lights on the back of my roof rack that I use, so its not urgent for me to fix my reverse lights. I will post up results if I can get around to actually doing it.
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Unread 02-06-2013, 12:30 PM   #9
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Last thread I followed found the reverse switch was in the transmission for the 4.7
Have a look in your manual.
I think (not sure ) that the reverse switch is at gear leaver for 4.0
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Unread 02-06-2013, 01:46 PM   #10
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That's what everyone seems to think but no one ever finishes these treads with results. Since the neutral safety switch is a $13 part and my mechanic thought it might work, I am willing to give it a try.
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Unread 02-06-2013, 04:31 PM   #11
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I had the same issue, check the connector on the transmission. Mine was not completely latched. Popped it in and no problem since.
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Unread 02-11-2013, 09:58 AM   #12
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I had the same issue, check the connector on the transmission. Mine was not completely latched. Popped it in and no problem since.
Good suggestion, I will take a look at this tonight.
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Unread 02-17-2013, 06:11 AM   #13
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Any update buns?
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Unread 02-17-2013, 11:39 AM   #14
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I pulled the wire connector off and reconnected it with no luck. There is not a Neutral Safety Switch on the 45/545. I only see the speed input and speed output sensors. For now I am assuming it is the solenoid in the transmission. I have gotten use to my "manual" reverse lights, so I think I am just going to run that setup for now. I went ahead and tapped my roof rack lights into my reverse lights, so I have plenty of light back there now!
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Unread 06-07-2013, 09:10 PM   #15
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Will the manual reverse lights pass inspection?
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