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Unread 12-30-2012, 09:42 AM   #61
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Next question gcjeeping???!!!
What are you planning to do about the handle? I dont really want to cut the bumper too much like bphase has had to do and def not the grille (I have a LTD) and keeping it as hidden and std looking as poss seems the whole point. I have not bought a winch yet (and am no expert on them-just know I want 6000lb min, ideally 9000) and some Im looking at have no handle so I might be going that way but most of the used ones ive seen on the 'bay have handles that will hit the grille or come through the top of the bumper or both! Cant really see how they have done this at JWP on the original...no handle I guess?

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Unread 12-30-2012, 09:49 AM   #62
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Ok, so its together but I had to hack up the bumper and grill a lot to get it to work. I'll pick up another bumper and grill sometime and trim a little better but it doesn't look too bad.
It is definitely a start and aside from the "hack" job, as you called it, with the bumper trim it will now be much easier to further modify it. As GCJeeping put it, consider moving the solenoid box to a different location for a cleaner look.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 10:52 AM   #63
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Next question gcjeeping???!!!
What are you planning to do about the handle? I dont really want to cut the bumper too much like bphase has had to do and def not the grille (I have a LTD) and keeping it as hidden and std looking as poss seems the whole point. I have not bought a winch yet (and am no expert on them-just know I want 6000lb min, ideally 9000) and some Im looking at have no handle so I might be going that way but most of the used ones ive seen on the 'bay have handles that will hit the grille or come through the top of the bumper or both! Cant really see how they have done this at JWP on the original...no handle I guess?
The handle has been clocked down (rotating the end of the winch). Well I dont know about mine. The handle cant be clocked on mine. You may be able to on yours. You can see in the photos from the original one that we are all mimicking. It was a warn so that would be an option for you. You can see the end of the JWP Warn winch at the handle end has a bunch of screws that look like they can be removed and allow the end to turned to any position.

I was thinking that the plate could mount on top of the uniframe withe ends angled up to fit the contour. Then it could be bolted through the top and still the sides. And you could fab it to still bolt to the bottom too.

I have circled the handle that JWP did.





Here is what it might be done by flipping the plate so the handle is down



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It is definitely a start and aside from the "hack" job, as you called it, with the bumper trim it will now be much easier to further modify it. As GCJeeping put it, consider moving the solenoid box to a different location for a cleaner look.
Also a Limited bumper will add an inch or so to the front allowing you not to have to cut the front of the Laredo bumper as much.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 04:12 PM   #64
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It looks like I can move the whole plate back toward the radiator about an inch. That'll make it fit behind the bumper better. But I don't want to hide it totally because I would need to see the drum when spooling it back in. I already used it and it works great. Aside from plugging in the cord but my wireless adapter is coming soon. Like I said, I will be picking up a bumper and grill from pick a part soon and redoing the trimming. I was thinking about hinging the grill to swing up to be able to get to the handle and solenoid box and junk.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 04:14 PM   #65
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The handle has been clocked down (rotating the end of the winch). Well I dont know about mine. The handle cant be clocked on mine. You may be able to on yours. You can see in the photos from the original one that we are all mimicking. It was a warn so that would be an option for you. You can see the end of the JWP Warn winch at the handle end has a bunch of screws that look like they can be removed and allow the end to turned to any position.

I was thinking that the plate could mount on top of the uniframe withe ends angled up to fit the contour. Then it could be bolted through the top and still the sides. And you could fab it to still bolt to the bottom too.

I have circled the handle that JWP did.





Here is what it might be done by flipping the plate so the handle is down





Also a Limited bumper will add an inch or so to the front allowing you not to have to cut the front of the Laredo bumper as much.
Also I like these ideas.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 05:09 PM   #66
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Thanks again.....I really like the idea of mounting it under the tray and making the tray level with the top of the frame rails. I can see a few advantages to that..... much easiest handle access, less radiator air flow obstruction, keeping the weight lower, less visible cable routing. I think that having measured a bit more accurately today I would also be able to keep my mopar bar too. One of the Land Rover mounting trays I have found is only half an inch narrower than the rail gap too..... nothing that a couple of quarter inch spacer plates can't cure. Just got to get some winch dimensions now to make sure I can squeeze it all in.... and then find a good used one that will do the job..... as always in trying to do this on a tight budget having just had to blow 500 ish on a set of five ATs for the old girl. Time for me to stop talking and start fabbIng! But not right now as its gone midnight here! Thanks again for the info.
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Unread 12-30-2012, 08:51 PM   #67
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I like this version from Saguaro 4x Components, LLC for the WK that mounts the winch with the foot forward. I'm going to try this method on my WJ when I build mine. http://www.saguaro4xcomponents.com/i...ul4kog537omb45
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can the factory front skid plate be retained with this setup?
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Glad to see people cutting up the WJs!

I did something similar to my XJ.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/h...2-0-a-1090869/


Granted mine was welded on...
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Unread 12-30-2012, 09:24 PM   #70
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I would think so since the factory front skid mounts behind the radiator support.
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can the factory front skid plate be retained with this setup?
I can say for certain, yes it can.
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I like this version from Saguaro 4x Components, LLC for the WK that mounts the winch with the foot forward. I'm going to try this method on my WJ when I build mine. http://www.saguaro4xcomponents.com/i...ul4kog537omb45
That is nice. The only problems I see it it will be very tall in the front for the bumper cover and the handle will hit the rad and you won't be able to get ur hand behind to use it.
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That is nice. The only problems I see it it will be very tall in the front for the bumper cover and the handle will hit the rad and you won't be able to get ur hand behind to use it.
Other than that lot its ideal.......Hee hee!
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Hows it going....got any further? Im still looking at winches but as soon as Ive found one I will be getting on with the hidden mount.
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Unread 01-05-2013, 08:06 AM   #75
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All I got to do is put it up to the jeep and mark the bolt holes and make the backing plates. But since that involves working outside and its hovering around 20F outside I have been procrastinating. Supposed to jump up to the 40s next week.
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