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Unread 08-12-2014, 07:01 PM   #16
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Edited reply today. I mis-read the tire choices and thought it said 'Destination'. Sorry for typing up an irrelevant reply.

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Unread 08-13-2014, 03:39 PM   #17
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I would go with Duratracs if you plan on driving it down the road. MT/R's are nice off road, but are directional and LOUD.
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Unread 08-13-2014, 04:20 PM   #18
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Hey, saying is around here that MT/R wear rapidly on paved roads, as highways, is it true?
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:18 PM   #19
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I sell Both of these puppies all day long. and I always make sure to get feedback from all of my customers on them bc there is a huge debate on which ones are really better.
The Duratracs are absolutely amazing tires. they run great in snow, rain, dry and mud. I've never heard a bad thing about them. If you are going to be driving on/off road and it is your daily driver. the Duratrac is the way to go. I've heard that they wear a lot better than the MTRs. the Duratracs are what i consider a hybrid mud terrain/all terrain. some may argue differently. Goodyear was very close to discontinuing these tires, from what i understand they stopped making them then realized they should keep them in production. we had a hard time getting a hold of these for a month or so due to this, but now we are having no problem.
now for the MTRs, I could care less what the technical meaning of MTR is. It IS a mud terrain tire. like said before, it is designed very similar to an agricultural tire for maximum grip in mud and off road use. they use something called long bar/short bar design for agricultural tires, basically that means that on one side of the tire the bars are longer than the other side. Goodyear spiced up the design to make it a tire than can be used on and off road by giving it a tread meant for the streets. if you take a picture of a long bar/short bar ag tire next to the MTR-K you will clearly see the similarity in the basic directional design. These tires are absolutely amazing tires as well. I cant say anything about road noise but my only guess is that they will be fairly noisy.

as for sizing, I'm running 255/75R17 on mine with a total of 4" lift. which is a little over a 31" tire, and i have quite a bit of room for more. I believe that you should go for a 265 or a 275/70R17 (Duratracs and MTRs are made in this size). Im going to 275s when I get new tires, for yours I'd say 265 or 275, and if you wanna keep some room go for 255s.

All-in-all, you really wont go wrong either way you go. It will come down to YOUR personal preference. From my understanding of what you are looking for, the Duratrac is EXACTLY what you are looking for. and they are a little cheaper. Price MTRs and Duratracs in the sizes you are considering then decide. you will probably be able to get 255 MTRs for the price of 265 Duratracs, maybe.
hope this helps a little
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:31 PM   #20
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:38 PM   #21
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I have had 2 sets of duratracs, 32" and 33" equivalent, awesom tire.....still own the 33's

I have 35' MT/R (old style) they are loud and dont do well in rain...
I wondered about the rain. My boyfriend looked at the tread and said that he figured they would hydro plane bad.
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:42 PM   #22
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I wondered about the rain. My boyfriend looked at the tread and said that he figured they would hydro plane bad.
My MT/Rs dont do well in the rain but then again California is in a serious drought, so that goes to show how bery little it rains in SoCal
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:42 PM   #23
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I sell Both of these puppies all day long. and I always make sure to get feedback from all of my customers on them bc there is a huge debate on which ones are really better.
The Duratracs are absolutely amazing tires. they run great in snow, rain, dry and mud. I've never heard a bad thing about them. If you are going to be driving on/off road and it is your daily driver. the Duratrac is the way to go. I've heard that they wear a lot better than the MTRs. the Duratracs are what i consider a hybrid mud terrain/all terrain. some may argue differently. Goodyear was very close to discontinuing these tires, from what i understand they stopped making them then realized they should keep them in production. we had a hard time getting a hold of these for a month or so due to this, but now we are having no problem.
now for the MTRs, I could care less what the technical meaning of MTR is. It IS a mud terrain tire. like said before, it is designed very similar to an agricultural tire for maximum grip in mud and off road use. they use something called long bar/short bar design for agricultural tires, basically that means that on one side of the tire the bars are longer than the other side. Goodyear spiced up the design to make it a tire than can be used on and off road by giving it a tread meant for the streets. if you take a picture of a long bar/short bar ag tire next to the MTR-K you will clearly see the similarity in the basic directional design. These tires are absolutely amazing tires as well. I cant say anything about road noise but my only guess is that they will be fairly noisy.

as for sizing, I'm running 255/75R17 on mine with a total of 4" lift. which is a little over a 31" tire, and i have quite a bit of room for more. I believe that you should go for a 265 or a 275/70R17 (Duratracs and MTRs are made in this size). Im going to 275s when I get new tires, for yours I'd say 265 or 275, and if you wanna keep some room go for 255s.

All-in-all, you really wont go wrong either way you go. It will come down to YOUR personal preference. From my understanding of what you are looking for, the Duratrac is EXACTLY what you are looking for. and they are a little cheaper. Price MTRs and Duratracs in the sizes you are considering then decide. you will probably be able to get 255 MTRs for the price of 265 Duratracs, maybe.
hope this helps a little
This is alot of help. I had came to the decision of getting the duratrack form what I have been reading and this just confirmed me. Now to look at what those sizes look like on some WJs. I really appreciate this in deepth write up. Best one yet!!
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:45 PM   #24
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This is alot of help. I had came to the decision of getting the duratrack form what I have been reading and this just confirmed me. Now to look at what those sizes look like on some WJs. I really appreciate this in deepth write up. Best one yet!!
In my opinion you will enjoy the Duratracs...tires looks good...grab well...stick to road...are quieter than the MT/R....
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In my opinion you will enjoy the Duratracs...tires looks good...grab well...stick to road...are quieter than the MT/R....
Awesome. Noise doesnst bother me. I actaully like it. As long as its not to much. My KM2s have a whine to them but it is getting louder as they wear down. BUt I think I am deffiently doing duratracs just need to pick a size.
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:52 PM   #26
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Comparing apples to oranges.

Duratracs are pretty darn good in the winter and excellent when you stud them. Road noise isn't much more than stock tires really. I run them on my truck (Sierra Quad Cab) and haven't had issues with them in any weather. Their down fall is in rocks. I also have a set on my work truck (EcoBoost F-150) and it gets driven on gravel roads and limestone roads on site. They chunk and are wearing weird with less than 10k on them.

I have the MTR/k tires on the Jeep. Wear absolutely fine on the road, not significant decrease in wet performance, not insanely loud but you know they are there.

I'd use the Duratracs if you'll be doing more city driving and mild trails. MTR/k if you do more aggressive wheeling.
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Unread 08-13-2014, 08:54 PM   #27
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Awesome. Noise doesnst bother me. I actaully like it. As long as its not to much. My KM2s have a whine to them but it is getting louder as they wear down. BUt I think I am deffiently doing duratracs just need to pick a size.
265/75 on 4" lift will require some minor trimming .....id go a smaller size
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265/75 on 4" lift will require some minor trimming .....id go a smaller size
I am also not going for the stuffed look either. I like to have a little space on them. I have a 245 right now but that is to small needs to be a little bigger then that.
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i am also not going for the stuffed look either. I like to have a little space on them. I have a 245 right now but that is to small needs to be a little bigger then that.
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Unread 08-13-2014, 10:31 PM   #30
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I agree.

But anytime man, you will get a different opinion from everyone. like it was said earlier, it almost like comparing apples to oranges.
I have heard that MTRs are poor in the rain. but the Duras are great all around.
as for size you will need to remember that although a Duratrac says 265/70R17 and so does an MTR, they wont be exactly the same. bc they have different tread depth and other factors. size is based on very generic proportions. width (265) is measured from the widest part of the sidewall from sidewall to sidewall. this is not going to tell you how wide the tread width will be. that is a different measurement. and the height (70) measures 70% of the width, from bead (where the tire seats on the rim) to the bottom of the tread, it does not include the tread, thats where tread depth comes into play which is measured in 32nds (18/32nds 16/32nd etc.) basically imagine the tire completely worn down. Tomorrow when I'm at work I will get you exact specs from goodyear.

here is my WJ 3" IRO with .75" spacers running 255/75R17 Cooper AT3s. also front is trimmed about 1.5" and rear about 1"

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