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post #1 of 14 Old 11-04-2010, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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Manufacturer Defined Failed Component?

Hooked up my OBD II scanner today to check for codes. (2004 4.0L WJ)

I had none, but in the "On-Board Monitoring" section, I had failure reported.

It says "TID $11 - Manufacturer Defined: Value 45 Min 144 Result: Failed"

I put a picture of it up.

I tried to find out what that TID $11 code is, but I've had no luck.

Does anyone know what it's saying has failed?

What's Chrysler's little code word mean in real life?

Thanks, here's the pic:



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post #2 of 14 Old 11-04-2010, 08:13 PM
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Have no idea. You would have to see if chrysler's DRBIII says anything for codes.

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Aint that weird, any OBD Check engine codes? I've never seen that interface but looks kind of cool. Monitored systems I can think about hmm...

O2 sensors definately

I know some OBD interfaces allow for A.C. Tests and monitoring, dont know if Chrysler implemented this

Edit: It may be a reach but go here and scroll to the bottom:
http://www.scantool.net/obdwiz/

Thats the manufacturer of the software's data reference chart. I notice you have many of what could be O2 sensor monitored stuff and the one thats malfunctioning may be the TPS sensor. Maybe, I dont really know if they match up but its something

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Aint that weird, any OBD Check engine codes? I've never seen that interface but looks kind of cool. Monitored systems I can think about hmm...

O2 sensors definately

I know some OBD interfaces allow for A.C. Tests and monitoring, dont know if Chrysler implemented this

Edit: It may be a reach but go here and scroll to the bottom:
ScanTool.net LLC - OBDwiz Automotive Diagnostic Software

Thats the manufacturer of the software's data reference chart. I notice you have many of what could be O2 sensor monitored stuff and the one thats malfunctioning may be the TPS sensor. Maybe, I dont really know if they match up but its something
Yeah, I have no idea what the code means. There are no OBD check engine codes.

I know these codes are the hidden ones the dealerships don't want you to know about. I found a lot of articles on the $06 monitoring on Google, and they say it basically gives you a glimpse into stuff that may be about to fail, but hasn't hit the threshold for throwing a code yet.

It's required by OBD II standards, but each manufacturer has a different meaning to each code. So the hexadecimal code TID (test identification) $11 would correspond to a Chrysler specific test on whatever Component $01 is.

So that code and test would be completely different meanings for a Ford or GM.

Apparently there's no real reference out there with a list of what Chrysler associates these codes with. Only dealers know apparently (or the DRB III tool maybe).

My WJ doesn't seem to have a lot of these $06 monitors, but it looks like most of the tests are all testing one component, whatever Component $01 is. It seems to have passed all of the other tests but $11.

I just have no idea what it all means!
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post #5 of 14 Old 01-04-2011, 11:14 PM
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did u find out?

Did you find out what the $11 was that failed?? i have that fail and $31 $51 and $53
dont know what they are!
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Nope, I've never found out. Nothing seems to be failed on the car, but the code is still there. However, the makers of the TouchScan software I use just released a forty dollar addon that adds some capability to read the Service $06 codes.

I've been considering purchasing it, but I don't know how good it will work on the Jeep, where Chrysler is so secretive about their "dealer only" information.
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just a side note: I checked into it, and the software update does not add any new $06 info
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That "failed" does not necessarily mean that a component failed. It means that an on-board monitor test procedure has failed to complete. Apparently $10 is a Chrysler defined monitor and not one of the standard OBD2 monitors. From what I can gather, it takes a trained technician to make sense out of those results. That's not to say a diligent DIYer couldn't learn to deal with them.
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Question how to find "component test error codes 11, 31 etc

hooking up my spanky new do all obd 2 reader/scanner and when I went to component check (since mysteriously there were no obd generic codes) I got the only double digit error codes of which there maybe ? 50 or so of them, most passed but some failed - the 51,52,and 53 is due to the blend doors not working and you can check that by pushing the two buttons on your a/c - heating panel and holding them while turning the drivers side knob one turn which will ten light up these 2 digit error codes on the screen of your heater a/c panel - those error codes are for the blend doors etc recirc door like i said BUT how do you find out these other coeds apparently not part ofthe obd 2 system but of jeep's own thing - I can read the codes but it doesn't tell me what they go to (as I said you can see these codes on the a/c panel) but have the error codes on component test thing saying 11, 31 also fail - anybody know what these mean or where there is a chart so you can tell what these are?

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Question the 51 and 53 are blend doors I need to know the others

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Did you find out what the $11 was that failed?? i have that fail and $31 $51 and $53
dont know what they are!
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any ideas yet on how to find these codes ( the reason I know about the 51 and 53 is becasue i knew my blend doors were broke and the guy who sells the heatertreater.net solution explains how you look these error codes thru the screen on the a/c heater panel by pressing the two top buttons at the same time and then moving the bottom button one click to right and you see those error codes
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post #12 of 14 Old 02-15-2012, 09:17 AM
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What ever it is, it will defintly be more than $11 at the dealership.

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Guess this has been going on for a while. My code reader is sending me 11, 31, and 51. Just thought I would throw another... Anyone find out these great codes yet!?

Sorry this is my first post I'm gonna go someplace and introduce myself now.
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If you scroll through my thread there is mode 6 data listed. Also have a lot of fails. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...4/index20.html If you cannot find the pics of the mode 6 data, let me know and I will hunt them down and post them here
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