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post #1 of 14 Old 03-16-2016, 06:24 AM Thread Starter
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looking to add 2 inches of lift. help me decide wjays best.

This weekend I'm going to purchase a kit to add 2 inches.

I have a 2000 wj with 210,000 miles. It has the up country package. From what I've read that added an inch lift along with the skid plates.

In ether looking to buy ether all new springs(fat bibs garage 200$) and get new shocks a week Or two later.

Or the rough country bb with spacers and shocks.

I'm leaning towards the springs to get the olld ones out. But I'm far from an experts.

Just looking for suggestions.

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post #2 of 14 Old 03-16-2016, 07:49 AM
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If you go with new 2" springs, you'll have a 2" total lift. If you go with 2" spacers to install on top of your 1" UC springs, you'll have a 3" lift. At that point, you'll want to consider an adjustable track bar. Both heights will accommodate a 245/75R16 tire quite well.

Does that help narrow down your decision?

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I would think springs, and a slightly bigger spring spacer.
I'm thinking of the same thing, as my daughter has been razzing me about it sits to low, and how with are old Jeep, she had to jump up, and get in it.
I just hate to have it drive even a smidge worse, and already know what raising the center of gravity does to drivability, on windy days like today 25-55 mph gust.
Maybe adding bigger sway bars would offset it?
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I would think springs, and a slightly bigger spring spacer.
If you're buying springs already, it's best to buy the spring height you want. Minus using spacers to fine tune the suspension, I don't see reason in buying springs and spacers to achieve a proper lift. In fact, it's a bit more expensive that way.

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Maybe adding bigger sway bars would offset it?
Larger sway bars do help.

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Thanks, I was assuming after 16 years and 210k miles later. That one inch lift Might not be one inch anymore.

I'm trying to keep cost down. So ill probably just get the new springs
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With that many miles you are probably right. It's probably not one inch anymore.
Measure the length from the center of the hub to the lip of the fender and report back to us what they are.

2" spring or BB:
no other parts are required.

3" lift:
adjustable trackbar
longer rear links

If I had a vehicle with 210k miles (regardless of condition) I would only go with new 2" springs and maybe a 10mm Old Man Emu spacer for the front coils. Less stuff you have to buy for it.

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You want longer rear end links on a 2" lift as well. Either that or spacers between the "frame" and the rear end link mounts.

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post #8 of 14 Old 03-16-2016, 09:11 AM Thread Starter
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Ill measure after work today.

I'm not trying to buy a bunch of New parts other than the ones that are worn out.

The springs are actually 2.5 for the front only ,says they are for the v8 and extra weight of the engine. Would I still need the spacers up front?

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The 4.7 isn't much heavier than the 4.0. The amount of front spring sag between the two engines would hardly be noticeable.

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The 4.7 isn't much heavier than the 4.0. The amount of front spring sag between the two engines would hardly be noticeable.

I'm just going off the description of the product. I personally have no idea.

"This kit includes new 2.5" front and 2" rear coil springs to help level your Jeep Grand Cherokee WJ. Works great with V8 models to assist with the heavier engines"
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2.5" F, 2" R will help "level" your vehicle.

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post #12 of 14 Old 03-16-2016, 10:14 AM
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If the front springs are 2.5" then you will not need an additional spacer.

I would also get all 8 new spring isolators. When I installed my 2.5" lift i bought 8 new MOOG isolators from RockAuto.com for roughly $90 dollars. I suggest you get them as well.

When I installed the lift I found my spring perches completely rusted and taking off the passenger side coil half the perch broke off with it. IRO makes spring perches for the WJ for $30 dollars. Had my mechanic weld them and sprayed with 3M undercoating spray all for $40. Just to warn you. Sent from my iPhone using Telekinesis

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I went with a 2.5"/2" BB and JK Rubicon takeoff shocks on my standard suspension WJ. Don't forget to budget for the possibility of needing some of these: tie rod ends, ball joints, alignment, steering stabilizer, control arms, isolators, and/or bushings. I replaced all of these with my setup.
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I went with a 2.5"/2" BB and JK Rubicon takeoff shocks on my standard suspension WJ. Don't forget to budget for the possibility of needing some of these: tie rod ends, ball joints, alignment, steering stabilizer, control arms, isolators, and/or bushings. I replaced all of these with my setup.


Yes I plan on changing all this out. Already did ball joints. I'm selling a rifle to fund this. Any extra $ after the springs will go to more front end parts. Then work on the rear after.
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