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Unread 01-26-2009, 05:25 PM   #1
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looking at a 2004 Limited . . .

I was wondering what to watch for and what are the known long term problems? Thanks

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Unread 01-26-2009, 05:33 PM   #2
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Do a search on the blend door issue. All the limiteds have them. Other than that they are pretty well rock solid. Is it a 4.7L with quadra drive?
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Unread 01-26-2009, 05:46 PM   #3
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Yes Quadradrive. Does that work well? It seems I can't get away from blend door problems I have been through this on Lincolns I have owned. I have fixed them, buts its a real PITA.
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Unread 01-26-2009, 05:53 PM   #4
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There's loads of info on it here on this site and on others. I bought mine in spite of that just realising that I'll have to do it one day. To me it's worth it.

I haven't had a chance to test my qudra drive out yet but it is supposed to be the best on snow/ice/mud...the BEST. It can transfer torque not only from rear to front but also side to side and it can transfer 100% of engine torque to any one wheel. The real cool part about it is that it has the Varilok LSD'd both front and rear. Pretty cool setup. Some of the traditionalists still prefer the two driveshafts to be locked when they need the 4WD though...

Only thing to be aware of is that the diffs and transfer case require special fluids that only come from the dealer and they are EXPENSIVE (about $250 for everything) and they have to be serviced often
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Unread 01-26-2009, 06:45 PM   #5
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The downside to quadra drive is its complex and can be expensive to maintain. But when it maintained and operating correctly it performs very well.

Personally I prefer the simplicity of the Selec Trac system (242) and if I were to buy another WJ in V8 form I would hunt for the elusive V8 242 combo.

Like mentioned before blend door maybe an issue. This WJ has updated brakes because its a 2004 which is good. (warping was a common issue on early models) but I still feel the WJ's weak point is its brakes. They may still warp despite updated calipers, but the interval between warpage will likely be much more reasonable especially if you go easy on them.
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Unread 01-26-2009, 08:04 PM   #6
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Yeah . we have a Cherokee now. I do like the simplicity of that vehicle. That is primarily why I am asking about this Grand Cherokee. My wife wants a newer vehicle and a few luxury items such as leather, heated seats , sunroof etc. So . . Im looking around
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Unread 01-28-2009, 04:35 PM   #7
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Heated leather seats and Quadradrive, the pinnacle of a luxury and performance DD if you live anywhere there is snow.

The blend doors aren't a complicated fix, just a PITA as noted. Some have used the Heater treater with good success, but depending on what (if anything) is broken you may have to pull out the instrument panel anyway. You never know, you may come across one that's already been fixed. Just pull the HVAC codes on any ones you test.
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Unread 01-28-2009, 05:31 PM   #8
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Test the heated seat they seem problematic in this brand automobile.
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Unread 01-28-2009, 08:46 PM   #9
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Only thing to be aware of is that the diffs and transfer case require special fluids that only come from the dealer and they are EXPENSIVE (about $250 for everything) and they have to be serviced often
I use Mobil 1 75W140 with the Mopar brand friction modifier. The Mobil 1 is about $18 per quart, and you need about four of those. The friction modifier is like $12 per bottle, and you need two of those. That is $94 for both differentials. I do use the Mopar brand transfer case fluid. That is like $15 per quart, and you need two of those. That is another $30.

That makes a total of about $125. If you wanted, you could substitute non-synthetic 75W140 gear oil in place of the Mobil 1, and that would be adequate. That would get you down below $100 for both differentials and the transfer case. Fluids costs are higher, but not that bad.

On the XK, I use 7 quarts of 5W20 Mobil 1 every 5K miles. That is about $60 of oil every oil change. I also have to replace 16 platinum spark plugs every 60K miles. It also has the limited slip diffs and requires the Mopar transfer case fluid. The XK seems much more costly to keep it up, but I would not want anything else.
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Unread 01-29-2009, 10:21 AM   #10
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16 Spark plugs???
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Unread 01-29-2009, 10:32 AM   #11
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The Hemi has 2 per cylinder.
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Unread 01-29-2009, 11:19 AM   #12
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Of course I knew that! I was just testing you...
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Unread 01-31-2009, 01:39 PM   #13
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Try for a Overland, it gives you a few things that the already loaded up Limited does not. Rock rails, wood grain steering wheel, different leather seats with nice stitching, and of course the Overland Badge
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Unread 01-31-2009, 02:10 PM   #14
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Those rock rails won't hold up offroad very well. Maybe a bump but that is about it.
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