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Unread 10-10-2013, 12:28 AM   #1
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Light location in the center console gear shift

My son's ZJ has a light in the center console that illuminates the gear shift. My WJ is dark around the gear shift. When I took the console apart I wasn't able to find a light location or associated wiring. Are the WJ's unlighted or am I missing something?

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Unread 10-10-2013, 02:30 AM   #2
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You are missing something. Mine has lights.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 03:01 AM   #3
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Thanks for that. If someone has a pic of where they're wired that would be helpful.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 09:09 AM   #4
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There's a membrane in the shifter itself. If it doesn't work it cannot be repaired. You can try lifting the shifter plate and tap or rub the membrane, it's near the bottom of the shifter where it has the 90° bend going up towards Park that usually breaks. Good luck...

FYI, mine doesn't work in my WJ either. I was going to put in an LED strip under the shifter plate so I wouldn't have to replace my whole shifter. You can always look into that.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 09:22 AM   #5
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Mine flickers, which is damn near the most annoying thing to happen while driving. In my peripheral vision I just keep seeing this flashing green light.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 11:42 AM   #6
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I did see the membrane with the wires but didn't realize it illuminates. This is going to be tricky to find a good one.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 06:50 PM   #7
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I've heard of people just getting a 4" or so LED light strip and replacing the stock one.
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Unread 10-10-2013, 07:59 PM   #8
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I discovered today that the membrane has two tiny tabs that each slide onto a pin the size of a needle. Trying to hold all of the parts and thread the needle with a long piece of plastic is some sort of sadistic torture. Somewhere an engineer is laughing their *** off. Just for fun, does anyone know the part number or approximate cost? I assume only a dealer would carry this.
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The parts fiche only shows the shifter assy and no part breakdown for it. Your best bet is to go to the pick n pull and get the part or the whole shifter.



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This is what I have read also that you have to buy the whole shifter assembly the strip is not replaceable or acceissble if I recall.
However several people just put LEDS in there to fix the issue.

Here is a thread on it go towards the bottom for some directions on repair with LEDs.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/...light-1127742/
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Unread 10-10-2013, 10:58 PM   #11
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Thanks for the link.

Now that it's dark I can confirm the membrane is dead (or maybe the power to it is dead). Bring on the volt meter! I need to find a link about how to remove the shifter assembly too.
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I need to find a link about how to remove the shifter assembly too.
From the FAQ....

" Originally Posted by gcjeeping View Post
You don't. Cant be done. Have to take the knobs off.

The long story. I just explained it to someone that bought a bezel from me. From the start. You may already know how to remove the center console, so if you do ignore that part.

Console out.
2 screws under the rubber piece under the ash tray.
2 screws under the cup holder.
2 screws in the box under the arm rest.
Pull the box out .
2 screws inside the center console under the box at the back each corner.
Console will come out.

Ways to remove bezel. All ways require removing the knobs.

You have to pop off both shifter knobs.
**BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE GEAR SELECTOR KNOB**. There are two wires running up into it for the OD button. There is no play in the wires to pull the knobs off, they will break. Follow the wires from the connector up the the arm for the gear selector and undo it from the points securing it to the arm. This will give you slack when you pop up the knob.

The will pull off with a real good tug (Watch you head on the roof).

My preferred method is to use a really big crescent wrench or wrench. I have a 1 5/8" one that is over 18" long. I put a rag over the open end and put it around the base of the trans selector (in 1st) and the handle on top of the 4x4 selector (in 4lo). The leverage will pop off the trans selector pretty easy with a good smack on the end of the wrench with my hand.

Do the same with the 4x4 selector and put the handle on the trans shifter shaft. Then a good smack. Both knobs are off now.

Unclip the bezel from both sides. Will slip over 4x4 shaft .

At this point you have a couple choices.

You can cut the 2 wires to the OD. Slide the bezel off and put new one on and splice the wires back together. Put the console back in and your done.


Next choice disassemble it.
Figure out how to get the pins out of the connector. Remove wires from the Slide the bezel off and put new one on.

Next choice disassemble it.

Remove the light strip.

The light strip just slides over 2 pins on a little elect box. Untuck the strip from under the plastic at the front. Lift it out towards the back and then slide it of the transformer or what ever that little power box is. Set aside.

Remove light pwr box.

This box will need to come out as it is part of the harness and cant be unplugged. There are two little tabs holding it in in top. These are a pain in the a$$. I found that a sharp screw drive pushed across the tabs and remove them makes it easy to get it out. Wont effect it staying in place when you put it in. Remove box. and unattach the harness from the frame

Harness connector.

Either pop it off the metal bracket or slide it off the plastic bracket.

Wiring harness to OD should be loose already.

If you have the type shifter with the solenoid in the front that will have to be taken loose and take the bracket that the bezel clips to off.
It is held on by 2 clips in the back and sorta hinged in the front. Gently pry the clips loose and the lift by the back and the front will slip off.

Remove the wiring harness on the gear selector and light strip.

Feed the harness and shifter blinds out the old bezel.

Reassemble in reverse.

And your done.


I would just figure how to get the wires out of the connector or splice the OD wires and be done with it.


Think that it. Good luck if you decide to accept this mission. "
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GC You are a wealth of knowledge! Thanks for the directions. I was scratching my head trying to figure out the knob removal. Now I know how to get a like new bezel out of a future donor (and into mine).
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GC You are a wealth of knowledge! Thanks for the directions. I was scratching my head trying to figure out the knob removal. Now I know how to get a like new bezel out of a future donor (and into mine).

Yeah I have done quite a few of them for people wanting the shifter bezels.



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Unread 10-11-2013, 12:51 AM   #15
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GC I notice you're in CA. Where about? I'm in the Bay Area.
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