[KDog223]

Here's a KMA

[D0dgeRam1500]

They need to make a closer to flush KMA/TAG bumper. Those lights are a good indicator of how much smaller the bumper can be.

[bhicks]

Originally Posted by mycreativename

I'm sorry, but I've gotta say it...

Please don't ruin that beautiful Overland with those bumpers... It looks so good without all that garbage on there.

I'm gonna asuume you don't do any hardcore wheelin. You take an Overland with stock plastic bumpers onto the Rubicon, THEN you will know what "Garbage" looks like. They may not be as pretty and flow as well as the factory bumpers, but at least (with some welding) they will always look the same and will handle hard abuse and trails that the stock bumpers would wet themselves on.

[TJSWJ]

Originally Posted by skain8

You won't be disappointed. I trimmed the **** out of mine. Functions a lot better, and looks seamless with my chopped fenders.

thanks, im already more than happy with it. Plus i got it for a killer price.

[bhicks]

Originally Posted by D0dgeRam1500

They need to make a closer to flush KMA/TAG bumper. Those lights are a good indicator of how much smaller the bumper can be.

They do make a MUCH closer fit WJ bumper. It's there non-winch reciever style bumper which I just got. My reivew and pics of that bumper and their rear bumper is on the thread that was posted a couple times on page one of this thread. Take a look. There is definately some Good AND Bad with the TAG bumpers.

[mycreativename]

Originally Posted by bhicks

I'm gonna asuume you don't do any hardcore wheelin. You take an Overland with stock plastic bumpers onto the Rubicon, THEN you will know what "Garbage" looks like. They may not be as pretty and flow as well as the factory bumpers, but at least (with some welding) they will always look the same and will handle hard abuse and trails that the stock bumpers would wet themselves on.

I'm by no means saying that the stock bumper is the way to go. I didn't read quite as well as I should have before responding. What I was trying to say was that the bumpers with enough overhang to sit on look absolutely ridiculous on a WJ. Yes they want to be able to put the winch up on top there, I get that, I just think it looks hideous with a bumper that far out. But as the thread has gone on, I get it that the OP has the same opinion as me, he doesn't want one with such an overhang.

[Bama_WJ]

I have a lot of pictures of my KMA bumpers in my build thread.

[D0dgeRam1500]

Originally Posted by bhicks

I'm gonna asuume you don't do any hardcore wheelin. You take an Overland with stock plastic bumpers onto the Rubicon, THEN you will know what "Garbage" looks like. They may not be as pretty and flow as well as the factory bumpers, but at least (with some welding) they will always look the same and will handle hard abuse and trails that the stock bumpers would wet themselves on.

I went to Rausch Creek in December and was on the Blue and Blue-Black trails with only 3 inches of lift and 31's. Having to off road without a bumper looks like garbage. I was afraid of destroying my plastic bumper so I removed it before I headed to Rausch Creek. I need more armor before I do anything like that again though. I'm not good at making anything myself so I'm kind of stuck with the ugly over sized bumpers that the after market has.