post #16 of Old 06-10-2010, 01:46 PM
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I'm going to agree with technohead in that there is a happy medium between surface area and total mass for the best breaking. Finding this medium is what performance companies are trying to do. From what I've read and learned, EBC slotted and dippled rotors are the bang for your buck. I run them with EBC yellow stuff pads, not to mention I'm running a vanco brake system. It greatly improves stopping ability.

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I wouldn't mind doing a "system overhaul" but, knowing what to buy is the hard part.

Like the Vanco Powerbrake system isn't compatible with a 2002 jeep grand cherokee.
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Same size rotors though?
yes they are the same size rotors, the caliper follows the same contour of the old one but it just extends a little longer. i looked at them last night and cant find a part number or brand name, i just know we got them from morris 4x4 center.com.

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post #21 of Old 07-23-2010, 03:29 PM Thread Starter
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Well I have decided against aftermarket calipers, I am going to the stealership tommorow to pick up some akebono calipers, then i'll prob stop by a local parts store for pads and rotors.

All I need from the stealership is the caliper and caliper bracket right?

I can use the old bolts/pins? Or should I get that as well?

And I shouldn't have a problem with the old factory rims right?

Also, while I'm down there any other maintenance suggestions? Busings... etc? I"ll be going on a long drive friday this week, and i'd like to make sure everything is up to speed.
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I'd think Kolak, aka Nick, could give you a far better deal on those Akebono calipers, and he has other brake pad and rotor options that aren't so high-end. He also gives JF members a discount. Just a head's up. He's a great guy to work with.

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No reason to buy the akobonos from the dealer unless you like to waste your money.
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post #24 of Old 07-23-2010, 05:14 PM
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Keep your calipers. They're most likely fine.... Check my sig for what I've had on for 4 years now, towing a heavy old boat all over the East. Good equipment.

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Brake Performance - Slotted and Drilled Brake Rotors This is what I am running. They are zinc coated, and have a lifetime warranty against warping. I have been very pleased with their performance so far. They were 187 delivered to my door with pads.

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Do you suggest special pads to run with those rotors?

Or will regular pads do the job?
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Brake Performance - Slotted and Drilled Brake Rotors This is what I am running. They are zinc coated, and have a lifetime warranty against warping. I have been very pleased with their performance so far. They were 187 delivered to my door with pads.
can i ask why you pieced these rotors over the ones from stillen?
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The price, and the fact that they come with a lifetime warranty against warping. The ones I bought were 187.00 with free pads and free shipping. The stillens are 230 without shipping or pads. And the stillen warranty says limited lifetime which usually doesn't cover much.

  1. '95 XJ country edition, 4" coils/3/4" spacers, HD leafs with extra main added in, Ironman adjustable control arms, rough country shackles, aussie locker, JK rubicon shocks, 35" mudder's, soft 8's, cobra cb
  2. Sold'99 WJ limited, 4.7L, 3" IRO lift. Bilstein shocks, JK rubicon wheels, 255/70/17's, carolina driveshaft, IRO adjustable control arms, IRO adjustable A-arm
  3. Sold '00 TJ, 4" lift, rusty's adjustable control arms, skyjacker shocks, rock krawler adj. trac-bar,rugged ridge SYE and RE driveshaft, soft 8's, 35" mud king xt's,XJ HP D30 w/aussie locker, 4:88 yukon gears, hella 500's, rock crusher diff covers
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I sell the Stillen rotors for $160.00 for the front pair - far less than their web site pricing.

The quality of their rotors is such that warranty claims are nearly nonexistant. I've had customers replace them after 50,000 or 60,000 miles, just because they've worn them out, but that's impressive life without any warping issues.

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I wasn't trying to knock the stillens, as I personally have no experience with them. I was looking at those and the EBC brakes when I found the ones I purchased, I was pleased with the price and the similarities to the other two, and thought I would give them a try. I have only been running them for a few weeks so I can't give any real info on them except they look to be of excellent quality and so far have improved braking power slightly with no wobbles everytime I hit the brakes. I will update later with how they last and give a very honest summary. If they warp and I have warranty problems I will share those as well. I assume the stillens or EBC'S would be of equal quality and didn't want to steer anyone away from those two, just posting a different option.

  1. '95 XJ country edition, 4" coils/3/4" spacers, HD leafs with extra main added in, Ironman adjustable control arms, rough country shackles, aussie locker, JK rubicon shocks, 35" mudder's, soft 8's, cobra cb
  2. Sold'99 WJ limited, 4.7L, 3" IRO lift. Bilstein shocks, JK rubicon wheels, 255/70/17's, carolina driveshaft, IRO adjustable control arms, IRO adjustable A-arm
  3. Sold '00 TJ, 4" lift, rusty's adjustable control arms, skyjacker shocks, rock krawler adj. trac-bar,rugged ridge SYE and RE driveshaft, soft 8's, 35" mud king xt's,XJ HP D30 w/aussie locker, 4:88 yukon gears, hella 500's, rock crusher diff covers
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