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post #1 of 17 Old 08-18-2017, 04:13 PM Thread Starter
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I need rivets!

We just picked up a nice 04 without tow pack., rear bumper is off and I have a new factory bezel but no rivets. Does anyone know what size the rivets are and where I can get them? Checked Fastenal, no dice! Thanks!

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post #2 of 17 Old 08-18-2017, 05:48 PM
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I used something similar to this when I removed my bumper.

100 Pcs Car Fender Push in Type Plastic Rivets Fastener 15 x 12 x 6mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009T8IMS6..._M22LzbT3NHNMP

Doesn't pull quite as tight as the actual rivets but reusable and easier to install and removal in the future. Which is a must on a jeep haha. These will probably be easier to find in a store as well vs the rivets

I don't know if yo have an ace hardware around you but my local one carries the plastic rivets and I found some at harbor freight.

https://m.harborfreight.com/hand-riv...not%20provided
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post #3 of 17 Old 08-18-2017, 07:18 PM
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I found the plastic rivets in various sizes at Auto Zone but am thinking Advanced Auto and Napa should carry them.
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Thanks! I haven't looked at Advance or Auto Zone, will do though. Really wish I knew what size they were, not exactly sure how snug of a fit the rivet should be before it expands.
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Different?

I believe the rivets for the bezel are different than the other rivets used on the WJ, that may be the issue with finding the correct size.
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The 04 OE parts list isn't very clear on the figure (013-340) for the rear bumper. They really don't show the bezel but have an arrow pointed to the middle/bottom of the rear bumper. It's item 3 with OE #34201631, amount 6, "Rivet, M6 .25x28".

Not sure if this is correct rivets or not but think the bezel uses 6 rivets. And if you want OE they're only $3/each or 5 for $15. Lol, and a 5-pack isn't even enough!

https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Plastic.../dp/B00158S9R2

Actually the below bezel photo using machine screws w/head painted black and nuts on the back doesn't look bad at all.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/.../#post19446489
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The 04 OE parts list isn't very clear on the figure (013-340) for the rear bumper. They really don't show the bezel but have an arrow pointed to the middle/bottom of the rear bumper. It's item 3 with OE #34201631, amount 6, "Rivet, M6 .25x28".

Not sure if this is correct rivets or not but think the bezel uses 6 rivets. And if you want OE they're only $3/each or 5 for $15. Lol, and a 5-pack isn't even enough!

https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-Plastic.../dp/B00158S9R2

Actually the below bezel photo using machine screws w/head painted black and nuts on the back doesn't look bad at all.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310/.../#post19446489
Nothing I have read is very clear about the rivets. The OE part I have requires 15 rivets! When I search the size you mention, it doesn't say for sure that is the size that will fit. At this point I am beginning to think of a alternative way to attach it to the bumper. Hope to talk to a dealer on Monday!
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Nothing I have read is very clear about the rivets. The OE part I have requires 15 rivets! When I search the size you mention, it doesn't say for sure that is the size that will fit. At this point I am beginning to think of a alternative way to attach it to the bumper. Hope to talk to a dealer on Monday!
Agree, and even in the below bezel instructions they show the template with 15 rivet holes along with 2 screw holes. But they do not show the 15 rivets which comes with the bezel kit. I've also read the template no longer comes with the kit which is nice/cheap of them.

http://www.wjjeeps.com/pdf/trailer_bezel_install.pdf

They also show using a 5/16" drill bit for drilling the rivet holes in the bumper. But it's my understanding the rivets may be 6mm dia while 8mm = 5/16". Maybe they want some slop in the holes or the rivets are larger where the part that splits goes through?

It should also be noted that same rivet part number I listed says it's for the fenders on some of the vendor sites. Clear as mud and good luck.
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post #9 of 17 Old 08-20-2017, 02:02 PM
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I have a rivot tool for them. I've used it a lot over the years.
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Harbor Freight sells a plastic rivet tool that includes a variety of plastic rivets.

I used it without any issue when I pulled the bumper cover a couple years ago to replace the fuel pump on my wife's '03 WJ.

I think it only cost $10-$15, works pretty good actually.
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I've had a lot of success with this place. Factory original fasteners.
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Chr...iners_s/66.htm
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Harbor Freight sells a plastic rivet tool that includes a variety of plastic rivets.

I used it without any issue when I pulled the bumper cover a couple years ago to replace the fuel pump on my wife's '03 WJ.

I think it only cost $10-$15, works pretty good actually.
I picked up the HF tool today that comes with 3 different size rivets, none of them fit
Guess I will try my local automotive stores and if that doesn't work then I will try the fasteners place mentioned above. It would be REALLY nice if I knew what size rivets this thing needed!!
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If you push the rivet stem in all the way you can remove the plastic rivet and take it as a sample.
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post #14 of 17 Old 08-23-2017, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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No rivets the right size at any of my local parts stores. The smallest I could find was a 5mm diameter, I drilled the piece out a little and it still didn't fit, may try 3mm or 4mm, if I can find some!!
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Strange, since in those bezel install instructions I posted it says to drill 5/16" (8mm) holes for the plastic rivets in the bumper but yet those 5mm rivets you tried won't fit through the bezel holes.

Something sounds goofy and if you do find smaller rivets as you probably know you'll have to use a smaller bit for the bumper holes. Something like 1/8" dia rivets (3.175mm) seems awfully small and you may end up having to drill all your bezel holes out larger to fit the rivets you can find. A 7/32" (5.5mm) bit, hair under 1/4", would probably work well for those 5mm rivets. And you could drill both the bezel/bumper with the same bit. Good luck.

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