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davidwulf 11-05-2012 02:00 PM

How to fix your wj steering problems
 
Well first off i like many others on here have been chasing a lose or sloppy steering for a while . I have read every thread ever written on steering problems , yea been reading a lot . My 04 has had lose steering and what i and others call a dead spot . So I started with a RED HEAD steering gear made a diff but not quite there , put in MOOG tie rod ends and they have grease fittings . Ok steering is better but still have that dead spot , and what i mean by daed spot is going down the road straight you can move the wheel back and forth a little but enough to make driving it a PITA . So went today and got new pump and high pressure hose installed them and it was better but still have that dead spot there . During my reading of threads I came across one where the guy tack welded the slip joint on the steering shaft , well I'am thinking his was way lose to have to do that . Well i take a look at mine and can see just a small amount of play not enough to even consider but I will try anything now. So i pull out my HOBART mig unhook batts and put a good tack on it .Well i take it out for a drive and it s just unblieveable its fixed . The best tightest steering you could ever want . So in closing these dead spots that some of us have is most likely the steering shaft and welding is probably not the proper way to do it but it works .

TheSiltSurfer 11-05-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by davidwulf
Well first off i like many others on here have been chasing a lose or sloppy steering for a while . I have read every thread ever written on steering problems , yea been reading a lot . My 04 has had lose steering and what i and others call a dead spot . So I started with a RED HEAD steering gear made a diff but not quite there , put in MOOG tie rod ends and they have grease fittings . Ok steering is better but still have that dead spot , and what i mean by daed spot is going down the road straight you can move the wheel back and forth a little but enough to make driving it a PITA . So went today and got new pump and high pressure hose installed them and it was better but still have that dead spot there . During my reading of threads I came across one where the guy tack welded the slip joint on the steering shaft , well I'am thinking his was way lose to have to do that . Well i take a look at mine and can see just a small amount of play not enough to even consider but I will try anything now. So i pull out my HOBART mig unhook batts and put a good tack on it .Well i take it out for a drive and it s just unblieveable its fixed . The best tightest steering you could ever want . So in closing these dead spots that some of us have is most likely the steering shaft and welding is probably not the proper way to do it but it works .

Awesome! Going to have to try this can you provide some pics! Thanks

davidwulf 11-05-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSiltSurfer (Post 14408575)
Awesome! Going to have to try this can you provide some pics! Thanks

Will try to post some up but its pretty simple. right where the lower shaft slides in to the upper put a tack weld . You have to be careful and make sure its just a tack , it has to be able to break lose if you are in a wreck .

TheSiltSurfer 11-05-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by davidwulf

Will try to post some up but its pretty simple. right where the lower shaft slides in to the upper put a tack weld . You have to be careful and make sure its just a tack , it has to be able to break lose if you are in a wreck .

What's with the wreck deal? I havent changed stock box yet bur I just got all new ball joints & all new steering Components(drag,track,tieros) so Anyhow going to try this tomorrow hopefully kill that dead spot :D thanks

kc2mrg 11-05-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSiltSurfer (Post 14409428)
What's with the wreck deal?

steering shafts are designed to collapse into itself in case you get into a frontal wreck, if you weld it more than just a tack, it will be solid and if you crash your rig and the shaft is not able to collapse the steering shaft will either push the steering wheel into you, or push the column through the wheel and it then will in turn go through you

davidwulf 11-05-2012 05:39 PM

The slip joint is there for movement , if it were a solid tube and you had a front impact then the steering wheel could come though and hit you . So with the slip tube if that happens it will compress and the wheel stays put . So just a tack so it will hold it and break upon impact .

Dusk53 11-05-2012 05:42 PM

Curious as to why OP expects me to read that long *** paragraph.

TheSiltSurfer 11-05-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kc2mrg

steering shafts are designed to collapse into itself in case you get into a frontal wreck, if you weld it more than just a tack, it will be solid and if you crash your rig and the shaft is not able to collapse the steering shaft will either push the steering wheel into you, or push the column through the wheel and it then will in turn go through you

Damn. Ok so just a tac lol

davidwulf 11-05-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusk53 (Post 14409647)
Curious as to why OP expects me to read that long *** paragraph.

Hell read what ever you want . I you don't then don't . Hell you don't have to read this , getting to long for you . Have a nice day :highfive:

TheSiltSurfer 11-06-2012 02:38 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Ok I'm about to try this exactly which one is the slip joint? Thanks again

davidwulf 11-06-2012 02:50 PM

Its the upper pic where the rubber boot is , slide the rubber boot down and you will see where the bottom slides into the top section .

TheSiltSurfer 11-06-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by davidwulf
Its the upper pic where the rubber boot is , slide the rubber boot down and you will see where the bottom slides into the top section .

Lol took it too my buddies shop and he refused to do it, guess ill start by adjusting slack in box first then maybe find a welder who doesn't care

ZeJokee 11-06-2012 04:43 PM

Why would he refuse?

TheSiltSurfer 11-06-2012 04:49 PM

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Why would he refuse?

Safety and peace of mind on his part,maybe ill try gorilla glue Lmao :D

TheSiltSurfer 11-06-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSiltSurfer

Safety and peace of mind on his part,maybe ill try gorilla glue Lmao :D

Wow, it actually worked dde32 gorilla glue is magic I swear! My dead spot is gone now and it hasn't even dried fully...Glory & Godbless America!! Carry on friends


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